Wot no coronavirus thread? Part 2

[Ted Striker]

Interesting link, says 90% of the expenditures are from chronic ailments (mostly heart disease) and mental health diseases. Prevention can cut down alot of those factors. Sedentary lifestyle, diet, and stress (inflammation) are all items that need an overhaul

[Dauphin]

What percentage of the population has cancer?

Cost of cancer care in the US is about $174bn. The US spends about $3.5tr. Cancer care doesn't represent much of the cost, albeit a slightly outsized cost

https://www.cdc.gov/chronicdisease/about/costs/index.htm

[BlackCat]

Easily. But the pharma and med industries have based their global business models on the current market inequities of the US system (Medicare not allowed to negotiate drug prices, separate pricing for the uninsured, etc), so the changeover would be extremely bumpy.

I find it quite weird that you don't say anything about the insurance companies - they are probably one of the worst problems you have when exploiting sick people.

[giblets]

What percentage of the population has cancer?

[Dauphin]

Doesn’t something like 50% of US health spending come from 5% of individuals. How skew is taking a mean?

[-Jrabbit]

Easily. But the pharma and med industries have based their global business models on the current market inequities of the US system (Medicare not allowed to negotiate drug prices, separate pricing for the uninsured, etc), so the changeover would be extremely bumpy.

[pchang]

If we had a single payer that was allowed to negotiate drug and procedure pricing, we could probably insure everyone and keep the per capita to the current level.

[Jon Miller]

A better number would be to say 28% of Americans are under-insured/uninsured. Which means that, using our approach, to insure everyone would cost about 16260 per person.

JM

[Ted Striker]

But that’s Socialism ! ™ Something something extreme left, something something AOC

[N35t0r]

You can't lead people who refuse to be lead.

Even with 50% vaccination rate, covid's impact will diminish hugely.

Of course, long-term prospects hinge on how long immunity lasts, as well as how many people get it.

[Ted Striker]

YouTube Suspends OANN for a Week After It Posted Fake Covid-19 Cure

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/busin...-cure/2240532/

Should also be charges for messing with peoples’ lives like that. Literally fake news

[BlackCat]

Ah, but without video - that's why I didn't notice it

[BeBMan]

Pchang also posted it a bit ago,

But I liked it

[BlackCat]

Germans going to war :

[giblets]

In a recently resurfaced video clip, Republican Senator Ted Cruz of Texas said Democrats would call off coronavirus restrictions a week after a Joe Biden victory in the presidential election.

"If it ends up that Biden wins in November...I guarantee you, the week after the election suddenly all those Democratic governors, all those Democratic mayors, will say, 'Everything is magically better. Go back to work, go back to school.' Suddenly, the problems are solved," Cruz said in the July 22 clip.

https://www.newsweek.com/clip-ted-cruz-saying-democrats-would-say-covid-magically-better-week-after-biden-wins-resurfaces-1549618

Meanwhile, in reality...