Wot no coronavirus thread? Part 2

[pchang]

What do you think these vaccines are made of, nitroglycerin? They will be stored in boxes with foam cushioning and then put in freezers (and some with dry ice).

[pchang]

As far as I know, ER doctors will get first dibs, then nurses. Distribution is very local. Here in LA, it will be Cedar Sinai first. They are 1 of only 7 hospitals in CA to get the first doses.

[Dauphin]

If they can deliver dry ice (and they can) to every state, they can deliver the Pfizer vaccine. All others require standard freezing (equivalent to delivering ice cream) at worst.

I thought some of these vaccines had transit stability issues, not just temperature. Shoving in a freezer in a truck is an oversimplification.

Although I heard that from a pharmacist friend with access to the U.K. government logistical analysis studies - so could be wrong and or not public and I can’t easily verify.

[Uncle Sparky]

In Canada, we are putting the military in charge of distribution and storage.

[Uncle Sparky]

At least they aren't using bleach.

[Ted Striker]

pchang do you have any data on the rollout schedule? Are front line workers getting it yet? I am assuming the well connected will take a big part of the first cut that just got delivered but was hoping ER nurses would get first dibs on it

[pchang]

If they can deliver dry ice (and they can) to every state, they can deliver the Pfizer vaccine. All others require standard freezing (equivalent to delivering ice cream) at worst.

[Proteus_MST]

US has prepaid for the following vaccine doses that I know of:
Moderna - 100 million
Pfizer BioNtech - 100 million
AstraZenica Oxford - 500 million
Johnson and Johnson - 100 million

This is enough to vaccinate everyone in the US ~1.33 times. (Johnson and Johnson may only require 1 dose)

The interesting question may be, if the vaccine doses make it to the points of distribuition in all states intact.

AFAIK thre are special requirements like an intact cooling chain (AFAIK the BioNTech, for example, has to stay at -70 or -100°C or the like),
so the distribution may need especially thorough planning ot warehousing and the logistic chains.

I doubt that the federal government is able to do this (too many experts having beern fired and replaced by Yes-Men) ...
and I also wouldn't think that the expertise for such endeavour may lack in several US states.

[pchang]

Johnson and Johnson owns Janssen and so some might list that vaccine as the Janssen one while others list it as Johnson and Johnson.

[N35t0r]

What's the J&J vaccine?

[pchang]

US has prepaid for the following vaccine doses that I know of:
Moderna - 100 million
Pfizer BioNtech - 100 million
AstraZenica Oxford - 500 million
Johnson and Johnson - 100 million

This is enough to vaccinate everyone in the US ~1.33 times. (Johnson and Johnson may only require 1 dose)

[pchang]

stupid autocorrect.

[N35t0r]

No vaccine petrols or vaccine EVs?

[pchang]

The UK preordered a total of 355 million vaccine diesels from the various companies. That’s enough to vaccinate everyone in the UK 2.5 times.

[pchang]

MRNA up to $157/share.