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Michigan board votes to certify the state’s election results, dealing Trump another blow
DETROIT —The Michigan Board of Canvassers voted Monday to certify the state's election results, effectively awarding the state's 16 electoral votes to President-elect Joe Biden, who defeated President Trump with a margin of more than 155,000 votes.
The decision dealt another blow to Trump’s unprecedented effort to undo Biden’s win by attempting to delay the certification of the election results in key states.
Three out the four board members — including one Republican — voted for certification, capping a dramatic political dispute that had roiled the state.
The Michigan canvassing board had never before refused to certify a statewide vote, but pressure on the once-obscure panel had built over the past week.
In the run-up to Monday’s meeting, Trump made an extraordinary personal intervention into Michigan, reaching out personally to state and local officials. His supporters called on the GOP-controlled legislature to appoint their own set of electors before the electoral college meets on Dec. 14.
And both the president and top GOP officials sought to discredit the vote process in Michigan’s Wayne County, home of Detroit, making sweeping and unsubstantiated claims about widespread fraud and citing errors in the vote tallies. Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel and state GOP Chairwoman Laura Cox called for a “full audit and investigation” before the vote was certified.
[Detroit had more vote errors in 2016 when Trump won Michigan by a narrow margin. He didn’t object then.]
The YouTube webcast of Michigan’s canvassing board meeting drew more than 30,000 people — a remarkable viewership for the small panel. The quiet scene they tuned into offered a striking contrast to the day’s high stakes: four board members sitting at tables draped in black cloth inside an antiseptic meeting room.
As the meeting progressed, members of the public offered a running commentary online, from “Certify!” to “Stop the steal!”
Meanwhile, in Lansing, a small group of Trump supporters huddled around a decorated Christmas tree outside the state capitol, waving American flags and shouting over a megaphone with calls for four more years of a Trump administration.
In the end, one of the Republican board members, Aaron Van Langevelde, joined the two Democratic board members in voting to certify the vote.
“There’s a lot of misunderstanding about this board’s role and the power that we have and the authority that we have,” Van Langevelde said during the meeting.
“The law regarding certification gives us a clear duty,” he added later. “There’s nothing in the law that gives me the authority to request an audit as part of the certification process.”
“Our duty is very simple, and it is a duty,” he said.
The lone holdout was GOP board member Norman Shinkle, who told The Washington Post in an interview last week that he was leaning toward seeking a delay. Shinkle cited a debunked conspiracy theory aired by Trump that voting machines made by a company called Dominion deleted thousands of Trump votes.
On Monday, Shinkle called Michigan’s elections “a national embarrassment.”
“There is no excuse for the confusion and uncertainty that seems to follow every election in our state,” he said, before abstaining when the vote was called.
Immediately afterward, Michigan’s GOP House Speaker Lee Chatfield said in a statement that the board “fulfilled its legal duties today in certifying the results, and now our democratic process can move forward. This is America at work.”
Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer had been preparing for potential legal action if the board delayed certifying the election, according to people familiar with her plans.Keep on Civin'
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I’m still waiting for an explanation on how Biden’s votes were a fraud but SOMEHOW all the Republican Senators, House, etc. who won on the exact same ballot are legitWe the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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This is probably as close as we'll get to a Trump concession speech.There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.Comment
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We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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Kid is still in denial, but he does vacillate with anger. Sounds like Lancer has reached bargaining.“It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”
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Knowing that you people give up so easily that you can't understand why other people fight so hard gives me hope.Originally posted by pchang View PostI drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett KavanaughComment
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What he actually said...Originally posted by Uncle Sparky View Post
"I want to thank Emily Murphy at GSA for her steadfast dedication and loyalty to our Country. She has been harassed, threatened, and abused – and I do not want to see this happen to her, her family, or employees of GSA. Our case STRONGLY continues, we will keep up the good..."I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Yeah...good.Originally posted by Kidicious View PostLong time member @ Apolyton
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If this is it, I hope Trump makes a military alliance with Taiwan.Long time member @ Apolyton
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Trump distanced himself from Powell because what Powell is working on is going to take more time than he wants to take. So he'll probably try to get his case in PA heard by SCOTUS. If that doesn't end well then he will likely concede. Don't expect anything "presidential" though, because **** criminals.
I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett KavanaughComment
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Patrick Byrne, the founder of Overstock.com, has come out as one of the experts working with Powell. They have a team of hackers and software engineers reverse engineering the machine fraud.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Hmm, weeks after the election, random rich guy decides to fund a random effort based on "reverse engineering" rather than any actual evidence.
About Patrick Byrne
1. He holds a certificate from Beijing Normal University, has a Bachelor of Arts degree in Chinese studies from Dartmouth College.
2. He resigned as CEO of Overstock.com after his intimate affair with Russian spy Maria Butina was exposed.
If Patrick Byrne was a Democrat, you would be blowing your top at how obviously compromised he is.Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
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