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  • Originally posted by Lancer View Post
    You do get full of yourself.
    I'm not the one touting all the conspiracy theories... The numbers say Trump lost. Most people think he did.
    Even Trump gave permission to work with Biden's transition team. (even though some of his staff didn't learn about until they heard on the news, and there is some question on when Trump actually knew )
    That's all I'm saying
    Keep on Civin'
    RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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    • Admiral is visiting Taiwan, public visit. Perhaps proposing alliance? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OIOn_-pe3Q
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      • pchang
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        Single issue voter?

      • Uncle Sparky
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        If he wasn't trolling, he'd be talking about Formosa.

    • Originally posted by Lancer View Post
      Who knows? Somehow not surprised. Tell you what keeps coming into my mind, its Texas. Texas is not bound by the Union. Somehow they can choose to leave. Saw this story back in the '70s. What if they said screw this...and left the Union? How many would follow?
      Texas tried to leave once, lol

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      • Well, the election system is corrupt, I totally agree with this opinion.

        These are the main points of corruption in the US voting system:

        1. Gerrymandering: The ruling party gets to draw the voting districts, which, especially by the GOP, often is abused in order to get more seats than they would statistically be able to get.

        2. One US citizen, one vote, sure ... but how much worth youir vote is depends on where you live, due to the undemocratic system of the electors college (as well as due to gerrymandering). This also is something where the GOP profits from.

        3. Strategies for voter disenfranchising, especially of monority groups in the USA. Likewise something which is more done for the profit of the GOP

        4. STrategies (mainly by the GOP) to influence the census every 10 years in order to have districts where lots of minority groups live be undercounted


        The election system therefore surely is corrupt and needs to be reworked in order to become truely democratic. But it would be the DEMs which would profit from this, not the GOP

        Also, doing away from the "WInner takes all"-system (in favor of a proportional representation system) would be a nice idea as well and would make voting in the USA more democratic. But this would be something neither GOP nor DEMs want, as it would give people more incentive to vote for third parties and neither GOP nor DEMs would like the competition
        Last edited by Proteus_MST; November 24, 2020, 06:26. Reason: forgot a portion for point 1
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        • Ming
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        • Dinner
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          Good points though you are ignoring that the Dems did all of those things too during their half century lock on power from the 1930’s to 1980’s. The only reason Dems belly ache now is because they know Republicans are doing exactly the same thing back to the Dems.

        • -Jrabbit
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          The parties swapped places with the Southern Strategy the GOP adopted in the 60s after LBJ passed civil rights and voter rights legislation. The core issues - democratic representation, gerrymandering, voter suppression, census BS - remain issues today, regardless of historical blame-gaming.

      • Originally posted by Ming View Post
        EVEN IF the paid and bought for Supreme Court manages to ignore the law and rule in the president's favor, he still loses.
        You can both believe that Trump won the election, even though there is NO PROOF that he did... you are welcome to your opinions, even if they are wrong.
        Even half the Republicans think Trump lost.
        But feel free to continue to post your outrage about how the election was stolen from Trump.
        He lost, plain and simple, and over 2/3rds of the country is glad he did.
        The Supreme Court doesn’t elect the President. The electors do. The Supreme Court can rule that the election is a fraud, which it is. The electors can then elect Trump. Please read the Constitution.
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        • Big Tech is going to start censoring everything regarding electronic election fraud. YouTube is going to scrub all the videos. Google will rig the search engine. It probably already has. This is what you deserve for voting for Biden, Big Tech, Big Pharma, Wall Street and the CCPs guy.
          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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          • pchang
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            And now we’re at anger.

        • I do think whichever wins, we lose.

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          • It was physically impossible to count the number of votes claimed to be counted in MI.

            "
            Election Fraud Expert Russ Ramsland Files Affidavit Showing ‘PHYSICAL IMPOSSIBILITY’ of Election Results in Michigan

            NOVEMBER 19, 2020

            COMMENTARY

            4 MINS READ






            The affidavit from Russell Ramsland of Allied Security Systems concerning the election fraud that took place in the 2020 election in Michigan was released. In the affidavit Ramsland shows the physical improbabilities of the election results there.


            Below is the Twitter thread from @Kanekoa discussing Ramsland’s affidavit:

            Russell Ramsland from Allied Security Operations Group (asog.us) filed an affidavit today.

            Follow along.


            TRENDING: “Drop and Roll” — How The 2020 Election Was Stolen From President Donald Trump (Video)

            2/ “My colleagues and I… have studied… the November 3, 2020, election results. Based on the significant anomalies and red flags that we have observed, we believe there is a significant probability that election results have been manipulated…”
            3/ “There are a stunning 3,276 precincts where the Presidential Votes Cast compared to the Estimated Voters based on Reported Statistics ranges from 84% to 350%… reveals 431,954 excess ballots.. This pattern strongly suggests that the *additive algorithm* was activated.”
            4/ “Until the tabulated voter turnout reached approximately 83%, Trump was generally winning between 55% and 60% of every turnout point. Then, after the counting was closed at 2:00 am, the situation dramatically reserved itself, starting with a series of impossible spikes.”

            5/ “The final red flag is perhaps the greatest. In the data are 4 spikes totaling 384, 733 ballots allegedly processed in a combined interval of only 2 hours and 38 minutes. This is physically impossible given the available equipment at the 4 reference locations.”

            6/ “Wayne County uses Dominion Equipment, where 46 out of 47 precincts/townships display a highly unlikely 96%_ as the number of votes cast, using the Secretary of State’s number of voters in the precint/township; and 25 of those 7 precincts/townships show 100% turnout.”
            7/ “This pattern strongly suggests both the additive algorithm (a feature enhancement referred to as “ranking choice voting algorithm” or “RCV”) was activated in the code… as well as batch processing of blank votes… where 74,119 more ballots were cast than the capacity.”
            8/ The *additive algorithm* as shown in the Democracy Suite EMS Results Tally and Reporting User Guide, Chapter 11, Settings 11.2.2. It reads in part, “RCV METHOD: This will select the specific method of tabulating RCV votes to elect a winner.”

            ▶️courtlistener.com/recap/gov.usco…

            Mr. Ramsland warned about the voting machines before the election:"
            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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          • We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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            • Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
              Election Fraud Expert Russ Ramsland Files Affidavit Showing ‘PHYSICAL IMPOSSIBILITY’ of Election Results in Michigan
              NOVEMBER 19, 2020

              COMMENTARY

              BLAH BLAH
              BLAH...




              You do know that your "expert" is the one that confused Michigan and Minnesota in the affidavits he supplied...



              And please note that it's even labeled COMMENTARY...



              But no surprise. You like posting long opinions and presenting them as facts/proof.
              Keep on Civin'
              RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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              • Didn't you claim that it was Trump's lawyers that confused the data?
                I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                • I never said they did the work, but they did present it in court. I guess his crack team never bothered to check it out, just like you didn't
                  Keep on Civin'
                  RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                  • pchang
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                    Kid could be a Trump lawyer. According to Rudy, it sure pays better than whatever Kid is doing now.

                • At a Wednesday press briefing, President Donald Trump laid out some of his objections to a Democratic proposal to provide additional aid to individuals and states who are struggling financially during the pandemic. He specifically named two provisions that he finds unacceptable: $3.5 billion in funding for elections that could be used to fund mail-in voting, and $25 billion in funding for the post office.

                  Appearing on Fox Business Thursday morning, Trump elaborated on his objection to these two line items: He doesn’t want universal mail-in voting to be possible.

                  Democrats, he claimed, “need that money in order to have the post office work so it can take all of these millions and millions of ballots” — something that Trump apparently views as a bad thing.

                  “Those are just two items,” Trump added. “But if they don’t get those two items, that means you can’t have universal mail-in voting.”

                  Trump has spent much of the pandemic railing against universal mail-in voting, a practice where states automatically mail ballots to registered voters. His campaign even sued the state of Nevada in an attempt to invalidate that state’s law providing for voting by mail.

                  At times, Trump’s also ranted against absentee ballots, which allow voters to cast a ballot by mail but only if they specifically request such a ballot in advance. Though he said earlier this month that mail-in ballots in Florida are fine because “Florida’s got a great Republican governor.”

                  Trump frequently claims that mail-in ballots are a vehicle for voter fraud — indeed, he did so again in his Fox Business interview Thursday morning, suggesting that additional funding for voting by mail will lead to “something that will turn out to be fraudulent.”

                  But there’s no evidence that any meaningful amount of mail-in ballot voter fraud exists. The state of Oregon, for example, has provided more than 100 million mail-in ballots to voters since 2000 but has only documented about 12 cases of fraud.

                  Similarly, according to the Brennan Center for Justice’s Wendy Weiser and Harold Ekeh, “an exhaustive investigative journalism analysis of all known voter fraud cases identified only 491 cases of absentee ballot fraud from 2000 to 2012.” Billions of votes were cast during that period.

                  It is more likely that Trump is opposed to mail-in voting for a more basic reason — tossing out mailed ballots is likely to disenfranchise a large number of Democratic voters. Several polls have shown that Trump voters are likely to cast their ballot in person, while Biden voters are much more likely to vote by mail.

                  Mail delivery has slowed significantly in recent months, and many Democrats have accused the Trump administration of intentionally sabotaging the post office. Many postal workers are no longer allowed to work overtime, slowing the process of sorting and delivering the mail. And Postmaster General Louis DeJoy, a major Trump donor, recently announced plans to reassign 23 post office executives and centralize power around himself.


                  The polls were "wrong" because Republicans sabotaged the post office. It still wasn't enough for Trump to get re-elected, but they did pick up seats in Congress.

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                  • That won't stop the vote deniers from reposting and supporting Sidney Powell's wild ass voting machine claims that even Trump doesn't believe...
                    The fact that the transition has begun kind of sums it up. Trump will keep claiming fraud so he can bilk his followers out of more money and establish himself for his post presidency, but it's game over. And Trump knows it.
                    Keep on Civin'
                    RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                    • Kid, I think its not long now, things are going to turn around. Hang in there amigo. Michigan is now going our way, with their legislature calling for full audit. See how things pan out.
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