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  • Originally posted by rah View Post
    The result is the same. They don't get to decide the legitimacy of the inquiry. But we'll see if they want to totally ignore the constitution.
    Wrong. They have to decide legitimacy. Otherwise they will force the President to cooperate with an illegitimate inquiry.
    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
    - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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    • They won't rule whether the inquiry is legitimate. It's not their place. But we'll see sooner than later.
      It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
      RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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      • I doubt if it goes to Court but they can rule whatever they feel is right. You don't understand the justice system. Courts don't like to force people to do things which violates their rights.
        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
        - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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        • -Jrabbit
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          Oh, "whatever they feel" LOL!

          Yes, that's how the justice system works!

      • You have yet to describe a legitimate right that is being violated.
        There is no way the court is going to usurp the constitutional power given to the house.
        I could see them ruling on whether the president himself has to testify, but the reasoning wouldn't be the legitimacy of the investigation. That would be a horrible precedence to set.
        It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
        RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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        • Originally posted by rah View Post
          You have yet to describe a legitimate right that is being violated.
          There is no way the court is going to usurp the constitutional power given to the house.
          I could see them ruling on whether the president himself has to testify, but the reasoning wouldn't be the legitimacy of the investigation. That would be a horrible precedence to set.
          The rights of the accused are public knowledge.

          Among the legitimate purposes of government is the punishment of those who violate the rights of others through the commission of violent or forceful acts, such as murder, rape, robbery, theft, burglary, or trespass. As the Framers understood, however, the matter does not end there because an important inquiry immediately arises: How do we ensure that people are not convicted of crimes they haven’t committed? That’s the purpose of the Sixth Amendment — to protect the innocent from being convicted Continue Reading
          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
          - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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          • -Jrabbit
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            Dude, it's an inquiry. Not a trial.

        • I read that and it doesn't really apply to my argument. ( The house brings the charges. The senate is where the guilt is determined so no rights can be violated until that point.
          My take anyway. But we'll see.
          It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
          RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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          • Originally posted by rah View Post
            I read that and it doesn't really apply to my argument. ( The house brings the charges. The senate is where the guilt is determined so no rights can be violated until that point.
            My take anyway. But we'll see.
            It's different because all of this is public, with the exception of whatever the majority decides to keep secret. It's not the same thing as a criminal investigation where everything is kept from the public for good reason. If a prosecutor leaks things to the media or whatever that's serious misconduct. So the Democrats have to operate in the spirit of the framers. The framers would never have approved of this crap and you know it.

            So all that is needed for SCOTUS is evidence that the Democrats are attempting to mislead the public in order to harm the reputation of the President. This could be evidence of an attempt to keep exculpatory evidence from the public.
            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
            - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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              The framers would have made Trump divest all his businesses. The framers would have impeached him for obstructing the Mueller investigation.

              And stop pretending there are no Republicans in the room during committee hearings. And if they actually heard exculpatory evidence, they would be shouting it from the rooftops.

          • lol wut? If there's any exculpatory evidence Trump is free to release it himself.

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            • The prosecutor must release it.
              I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
              - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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              • -Jrabbit
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                THERE IS NO PROSECUTOR. NO ONE IS ON TRIAL.

            • Grasping for straws our President is. (and his supporters)
              I do worry a tad since our highest court is loaded with partisan hacks but in the end I still have faith that they will do the right thing.
              It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
              RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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              • If the right thing hit one of you in the face you wouldn't know it.
                I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                • This is the right thing, reading the transcript and saying "Oh well. We were wrong. Someone lied. Sorry."
                  I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                  - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                  • My, what a convincing argument.
                    I haven't been hit in the face in over 40 years, How about you?
                    It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                    RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                    • JR. Idk why you always comment. It's annoying.
                      I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                      - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                      • -Jrabbit
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                        Then you DO know.

                    • Originally posted by rah View Post
                      My, what a convincing argument.
                      I haven't been hit in the face in over 40 years, How about you?
                      You don't know what the right thing is. That's why you talk about people's family matters and crap.
                      I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                      - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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