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Originally posted by Serb View PostOh, Boy! I have no strength to even comment that schizophrenia! :facepalm:
That was the (obsolete) map of American Military bases, not a map of NATO members, Idiot!
The US-Kazakhi military cooperation consitsts solely of a student exchange program and of the US supplying the Kazakhi military with equipment
Insofar it looks to me like the map is rather fishy
Originally posted by Serb View PostThis one, however, I have to comment, my dear Neo-Nazi revisionst (you are a German revisionist in my eyes now and forever).
1) There was no annexation of Kaliningrad.
2) The Eastern Prussia (Kaliningrad oblast) became a part of USSR due to results of WW2, which you have started, but lost. That is absolutely normal, when you lose war you have started - you have to pay for that with territories. That is called peace terms. You have capitulated and signed the treaty.
3) Kaliningrad is just a tiny, absolutely TINY (even unthinkable, incomparable price) for what you Nazis have done to Russia, when you have invaded us. Had we, for a second were like you - we would exterminated the whole Germany in our revenge for all your atrocities and 26 millions of our people that you have slaughtered during your invasion. But we are not like you. So, if you, motherf*cker have any problem with the outcome of the World War II - we can repeat that any moment, to repeat you a lesson that your first Chancellor gave to his descendants (who has ignored that advise of one of the greatest politicians ever during the entire History) -
"Never fight vs. Russians!"
2) Actually I have to correct myself here because you are right. The annexation of Königsberg actually was supported by the allied powers in Potsdam. I mistakenly assumed that the Soviet Union was only granted the right for the administration of Königsberg + Surroundings until furter settlements, but actually this only applied to the southern part of Eastern prussia ... the part that was supposed to be administrated by poland and later was illegally annexed by them
3) The spoils of war (including humans, like scientists) you got from the war resulted in catapulting your tech level up by a large degree. I doubt you would have been able to compete in the space race, wouldn't it have been for the german rocket engineers you dragged into the USSR (actually similar goes for the US space program which greatly profited from Wernher von Braun and other rocklet scientists from Peenemünde). Not to forget Jetfighters. Also, the USSR got Estarn germany for almost 50 years (with its uranium/Pitchblende that they forced eastern german miners to mine without adequate protection ... not only resulting in lots of miners with radiation sickness, but also in an environmental catastrophe in the surrounding landscape. In fact, without the uranium mining in eastern germany, you wouldn't have been able to supply your vast nuclear program ... eastern germany, by far supplied the biggest amount of uranium to the USSR). So don't talk to me about the USSR not having been adequately reimbursed, my dear Stalin-Revisionist.
Originally posted by Serb View PostYou have a short memory for history, really. Because you never learn!!!
Kant as any other inhabitant of Eastern Prussia has become a Russian citizen in 18th century after the outcome of the seven years war, when we took Berlin for the first time.
But, you never learn, really!
Ok!
If you need another lesson - the teacher is ready.
See the Franco-Prussian War of 1870 (started by France, which wanted to prevent the german unification with military measures) ... we soundly defeated France and then gave it back, noit annexating any part of it.
We never regarded the inhabitants of the french occupied territory as "inhabitants of germany" durign the time we occupied them
Also see the german-danish war (second Schleswig war) of 1864 ... the united german troops finally occupied the whole of Jutland. But the german states didn't make any claims to the northern parts of Jutland, but only took (or rather guaranted the freedom) of the southern part, the ducxhy of Schleswig.
So, the inhabitants of northern Jutland never were regarded to be citizens of germany, just inhabitants of the danish regions that were occupied by germany
Therefore Kant was just an inhabitant of the russian occupied region of eastern prussia.
(also, not to forget, that you were just part of a coalition ... actually the UK, prussia and a few minor german states fought against a coalition made up of the holy german empire, france, russia and other countries (so, actually prussia fought against the predecessor of germany (i.e. the HRE) during this war))
Your next attempt at war in eastern prussia was not so successful btw.
In WW1, when your armies invaded eastern prussia, they were beaten by a numerically far inferior german army. An outcome that wasn't alone the result of the tactical genius of General Ludendorff, but also greatly helped by a typical russian problem ... the bitter infighting/competition of the different russian generals/field marshald, as well as the low morals among the soldiers.Last edited by Proteus_MST; June 30, 2018, 09:47.Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
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Originally posted by Proteus_MST View Post
Well, there are russian bases in Kazakhstan but there never were US bases.
The US-Kazakhi military cooperation consitsts solely of a student exchange program and of the US supplying the Kazakhi military with equipment
Insofar it looks to me like the map is rather fishy
1) There was an annexation of Kaliningrad. It was formerly owned by germany, you conquered it and l<ater incorporated it into your countey -> Annexation
2) Actually I have to correct myself here because you are right. The annexation of Königsberg actually was supported by the allied powers in Potsdam. I mistakenly assumed that the Soviet Union was only granted the right for the administration of Königsberg + Surroundings until furter settlements, but actually this only applied to the southern part of Eastern prussia ... the part that was supposed to be administrated by poland and later was illegally annexed by them
3) The spoils of war (including humans, like scientists) you got from the war resulted in catapulting your tech level up by a large degree. I doubt you would have been able to compete in the space race, wouldn't it have been for the german rocket engineers you dragged into the USSR (actually similar goes for the US space program which greatly profited from Wernher von Braun and other rocklet scientists from Peenemünde). Not to forget Jetfighters. Also, the USSR got Estarn germany for almost 50 years (with its uranium/Pitchblende that they forced eastern german miners to mine without adequate protection ... not only resulting in lots of miners with radiation sickness, but also in an environmental catastrophe in the surrounding landscape. In fact, without the uranium mining in eastern germany, you wouldn't have been able to supply your vast nuclear program ... eastern germany, by far supplied the biggest amount of uranium to the USSR). So don't talk to me about the USSR not having been adequately reimbursed, my dear Stalin-Revisionist.
If your country is occupied during a war, its citizens aren't automatically citizens of the occupying state ... they become so if, during the peace terms, the country gets annexed.
See the Franco-Prussian War of 1870 (started by France, which wanted to prevent the german unification with military measures) ... we soundly defeated France and then gave it back, noit annexating any part of it.
We never regarded the inhabitants of the french occupied territory as "inhabitants of germany" durign the time we occupied them
Also see the german-danish war (second Schleswig war) of 1864 ... the united german troops finally occupied the whole of Jutland. But the german states didn't make any claims to the northern parts of Jutland, but only took (or rather guaranted the freedom) of the southern part, the ducxhy of Schleswig.
So, the inhabitants of northern Jutland never were regarded to be citizens of germany, just inhabitants of the danish regions that were occupied by germany
Therefore Kant was just an inhabitant of the russian occupied region of eastern prussia.
(also, not to forget, that you were just part of a coalition ... actually the UK, prussia and a few minor german states fought against a coalition made up of the holy german empire, france, russia and other countries (so, actually prussia fought against the predecessor of germany (i.e. the HRE) during this war))
Your next attempt at war in eastern prussia was not so successful btw.
In WW1, when your armies invaded eastern prussia, they were beaten by a numerically far inferior german army. An outcome that wasn't alone the result of the tactical genius of General Ludendorff, but also greatly helped by a typical russian problem ... the bitter infighting/competition of the different russian generals/field marshald, as well as the low morals among the soldiers.
I hope you can translate that:
В 1945 мы пощадили вас, как последние идиоты. Вы на нашем месте такого бы не сделали совершенно точно. Ты существуешь сейчас и пишешь мне это, только потому, что мы не такие звери как вы! И никогда ими не были! Если бы мы были как вы, то тебя бы сейчас просто не было бы!
Но, мы учли свои ошибки. И, если ты, тварь, еще не угомонился, то мы вас угомоним! И на этот раз от твоей любимой Тюрингии не останется камня на камне!
Засунь свои претензии на Калиниград поглубже себе в жопу. Потому, что как только ты рыпнешься - тебя сразу не станет, сука!
Take my words to a bank.
Do you read me?Last edited by Serb; June 30, 2018, 20:05.
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My grandfather has been wounded and decorated while storming the Koningsberg, so it is personal for me. He spilled his blood for this land, killing nazis, who came here in 1941 and killed two of his brothers. So, if you want to take it back - be my guest! We will never betray our grandfathers.
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Originally posted by Proteus_MST View PostSo don't talk to me about the USSR not having been adequately reimbursed, my dear Stalin-Revisionist.
But, actually - they do not! What you call a "Soviet occupation" pales in comparison with what they do to their whores all around the globe, including Germany.
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