The politically incorrect history of white men.

[Berzerker]

Yeah, except the population is going up 300,000 per year so the 100,000 leaving means there are 400,000 being born or coming in. Yes, 100k isn't **** to a population of 40 million. It is just regular background noise and nothing significant at all. We are mainly talking about elderly retireees cashing out and leaving for cheaper places because they are retiring or poor married young couples who are priced out of the market. Neither of which are your original claim of "the wealthy" leaving.

I am glad low income people people have other less desirable lower cost places to go but stop lying and pretending low income people are wealthy because they are not.

I said wealthy people migrate away from California's cities retiring to more scenic or less costly places (I know, what a surprise). I didn't say low income people were wealthy and you confused cities with the state. Defining 'wealth' differently than me doesn't make me a liar. Elderly retirees cashing out aren't wealthy? How do they compare to the people replacing them?

[pchang]

The replacements for elderly cash outs by definition are richer than the elderly who are cashing out. After all, they are the ones who are buying the property at the high price and continuing to live in the high cost area.

[ZEE]

Having lots of money is insignificant next to the powar of Kidicious.

[Dinner]

I said wealthy people migrate away from California's cities retiring to more scenic or less costly places (I know, what a surprise). I didn't say low income people were wealthy and you confused cities with the state. Defining 'wealth' differently than me doesn't make me a liar. Elderly retirees cashing out aren't wealthy? How do they compare to the people replacing them?

I apologize for calling you a liar. This topic gets covered a lot over at city data forum and I know this was some sort of talking point in the right wing media but it does not stand up to any scrutiny.

[Kidlicious]

Having lots of money is insignificant next to the powar of Kidicious.

It is better to be poor and wise than rich and foolish. Also, don't waste time trying to teach a fool.

[Kidlicious]

Having lots of money is insignificant next to the powar of Kidicious.

It is better to be poor and wise than rich and foolish. Also, don't waste time trying to teach a fool.

[Kidlicious]

Having lots of money is insignificant next to the powar of Kidicious.

It is better to be poor and wise than rich and foolish. Also, don't waste time trying to teach a fool.

[Dinner]

Wow, a triple post.

[ZEE]

It is better to be poor and wise than rich and foolish. Also, don't waste time trying to teach a fool.

*Takes out a notebook and a pen and scribbles down soem notes.*

[Dinner]

The replacements for elderly cash outs by definition are richer than the elderly who are cashing out. After all, they are the ones who are buying the property at the high price and continuing to live in the high cost area.

So true, after all they have the money to buy. The reality is retirees see a drop in oncome and they are not as economically dynamic. They are living on pensions, social security, and saved capital. They are not, generally, founding new companies and being risk takers. Yes, that they bought homes in California between the 1960's and the 00's means they have seen big capital appreciations. No, that does not mean they have free capital to investe or are wconomically dynamic.

The man iindicator of true economic wealth on thos state is the state incomevtax failings and that goes up and down with economic qctivity in the state. In 2009 the roght wing media was announcing 50% of the millioniares have left California! When in reality their assets were safe and what they were measuring was state income tax returns. So true. In economic down cycles there are fewer high income earners than in economic good cycles. Few if any had actually left thw state. Most were just retrenching for the turn around.

[Berzerker]

The replacements for elderly cash outs by definition are richer than the elderly who are cashing out. After all, they are the ones who are buying the property at the high price and continuing to live in the high cost area.

the replacements are not wealthier Californians buying up property, they're people moving into California - Dinner was comparing migratory populations - and those people are not as wealthy as the retirees headed out of the big cities.

[Berzerker]

I apologize for calling you a liar. This topic gets covered a lot over at city data forum and I know this was some sort of talking point in the right wing media but it does not stand up to any scrutiny.

Accepted... but my family has lived the exodus, and still is with my sister leaving the big city for a rural life. We ended up here but Idaho and Arizona were considerations. The retirees leaving are wealthier than the people replacing them.

[Proteus_MST]

It is better to be poor and wise than rich and foolish. Also, don't waste time trying to teach a fool.

As the example of Donald Trump shows, both of these things are correct

[Kidlicious]

Might as well put this here, since most people here are just going to ignore this like they do Marxists running the streets of California,

"It now appears that Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s laptop was PLANTED for police to find by her former IT Aide."

[self biased]

Might as well put this here, since most people here are just going to ignore this like they do Marxists running the streets of California,

"It now appears that Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s laptop was PLANTED for police to find by her former IT Aide." [citation needed]

fixed that for you.