How much damage are activist judges doing to the democratic party and the courts themselves?

[Proteus_MST]

Obama care is much more popular with democrats because they don't trust the free market and want the government to take care of them. Also, they believe fake news.

And rightly so.
As the free market is all about profit and not about being social and nice, certain groups of the population will be left out in the rain.
For example elder people or people who already have a history of medical preconditions (likeformer cancer patiens, diabetics, people with disabilities and so on).
Even if those people will get offered insurance polices (and therefore nominally "have access to health insurance" according to Trump), the provisions they have to pay will most probably so high, that they cannot afford them, unless they earn a lot of money.

And that's what already has beeen criticised from other sides a well, i.e.that the only people who profit from Trumpcare are those below 30, with no medical precindition and who at last are in the middle (or higher) income group

[Kidlicious]

And rightly so.
As the free market is all about profit and not about being social and nice, certain groups of the population will be left out in the rain.
For example elder people or people who already have a history of medical preconditions (likeformer cancer patiens, diabetics, people with disabilities and so on).
Even if those people will get offered insurance polices (and therefore nominally "have access to health insurance" according to Trump), the provisions they have to pay will most probably so high, that they cannot afford them, unless they earn a lot of money.

And that's what already has beeen criticised from other sides a well, i.e.that the only people who profit from Trumpcare are those below 30, with no medical precindition and who at last are in the middle (or higher) income group

"Being social and nice" isn't the highest objective. We can't have a society where the government provides for everyone's needs and no one can say anything or do anything that isn't what SJWs call "nice." Already we are becoming a society without men. Men are very necessary for a society to survive and progress. Part of the problem is the damaging liberal ideology that tells men that they aren't responsible for their own insurance etc...

[Proteus_MST]

"Being social and nice" isn't the highest objective. We can't have a society where the government provides for everyone's needs and no one can say anything or do anything that isn't what SJWs call "nice." Already we are becoming a society without men. Men are very necessary for a society to survive and progress. Part of the problem is the damaging liberal ideology that tells men that they aren't responsible for their own insurance etc...

"You know the worth of a society by the way, it treats its weakest members"
Dr. Dr. Gustav Heinemann (Mayor of Essen and 3rd president of the federal republic of germany)

"...the moral test of government is how that government treats those who are in the dawn of life, the children; those who are in the twilight of life, the elderly; those who are in the shadows of life; the sick, the needy and the handicapped. " ~ Last Speech of Hubert H. Humphrey


Regarding Health insurance I am definitely happy about the approach we have iin germany. Every adult person has to have a health insurance (althugh persons till 28 years of age can be insured via the insurance policy of their parents) and, while there are peivate health insurance agencies, the majority of people in germany is insured via state sponsored health insurances.

This not only means that noone is left out (even elder people are insured at affordable provisions), but also, that certain services are not only provided for free, but even are encourraged with a refund on provisions (Example: Going to the dentist for a half yearly checkup is not only paid fully by he insurance agency, but, as it resultts in a higher chances of your teeth getting saved (due to earlies discovery of caries), the insurance agency pays you more for dental prosthesis, if you regularly go to your dental checkup ... another example: Cancer checkups (at certain time intervals) also are free of charge for you, if you are above a crtain age, or if you have medical history of cancer cases in your family)

As I said ... health insurance is a solidarity contract and dependant on how many people take part in it ... and in germany all people take part (which also profits those who are young and healthy, as they won't have to declare personal bankruptcy for medical reasons if, for example, they have a grave accident, or someone in their family gets cancer and so on (better than being allowwed to play the russian roulette of not being insured and hoping that one can dodge the bullet of a family member getting sick, disabled or severely injured))

[Kidlicious]

"You know the worth of a society by the way, it treats its weakest members"
Dr. Dr. Gustav Heinemann (Mayor of Essen and 3rd president of the federal republic of germany)

"...the moral test of government is how that government treats those who are in the dawn of life, the children; those who are in the twilight of life, the elderly; those who are in the shadows of life; the sick, the needy and the handicapped. " ~ Last Speech of Hubert H. Humphrey


Regarding Health insurance I am definitely happy about the approach we have iin germany. Every adult person has to have a health insurance (althugh persons till 28 years of age can be insured via the insurance policy of their parents) and, while there are peivate health insurance agencies, the majority of people in germany is insured via state sponsored health insurances.

This not only means that noone is left out (even elder people are insured at affordable provisions), but also, that certain services are not only provided for free, but even are encourraged with a refund on provisions (Example: Going to the dentist for a half yearly checkup is not only paid fully by he insurance agency, but, as it resultts in a higher chances of your teeth getting saved (due to earlies discovery of caries), the insurance agency pays you more for dental prosthesis, if you regularly go to your dental checkup ... another example: Cancer checkups (at certain time intervals) also are free of charge for you, if you are above a crtain age, or if you have medical history of cancer cases in your family)

As I said ... health insurance is a solidarity contract and dependant on how many people take part in it ... and in germany all people take part (which also profits those who are young and healthy, as they won't have to declare personal bankruptcy for medical reasons if, for example, they have a grave accident, or someone in their family gets cancer and so on (better than being allowwed to play the russian roulette of not being insured and hoping that one can dodge the bullet of a family member getting sick, disabled or severely injured))

Germans are forced to pay for insurance, and not only insurance that they want, but insurance that they don't want. This is like Obamacare. No more decisions are to be made by individuals, only by the govt, and in the case of Europe, it's getting to be more and more the EU government, and not the local governments. Such is not the American way as it encourages people to be less individualistic, and therefore less responsible and productive. It has a profound effect on boys and men, which is why we see the increased feminization of boys and men, especially where they are assimilated into the global agenda. Such societies can not survive, and will become increasingly dependent on other entities, such as China, SA and the UN.

[Proteus_MST]

Germans are forced to pay for insurance, and not only insurance that they want, but insurance that they don't want. This is like Obamacare. No more decisions are to be made by individuals, only by the govt, and in the case of Europe, it's getting to be more and more the EU government, and not the local governments. Such is not the American way as it encourages people to be less individualistic, and therefore less responsible and productive. It has a profound effect on boys and men, which is why we see the increased feminization of boys and men, especially where they are assimilated into the global agenda. Such societies can not survive, and will become increasingly dependent on other entities, such as China, SA and the UN.

The fact that our weakest aren't left out in the rain (as much as in he USA) actually justifies the european approach.
You won't see all too many homeless people who carry all of their belongings in shopping carts in germany (people who liv on the streets usually choose by themselves to do so and not accept any help by the state). Therefore we also oly rarely have reports of people freezing to death due to lack of a roof over their heads.


And it seems to me like it is very christian, to care for the needy:

Open your mouth for the mute, for the rights of all who are destitute. Open your mouth, judge righteously, defend the rights of the poor and needy.

Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others. You blind guides, straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel!

In all things I have shown you that by working hard in this way we must help the weak and remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he himself said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”

Those verses sound more like a socialist aproach to life ... not one of individualistic capitalism


As for health insurances in germany:
Actually we have a certain degree of freedom ... every german has to have a certain basic health insurance protection, yes ... but we can hand tailor it to include additional services, either by taking private health insurances (instead of choosing a state insurance agency) or even taking private insurance policies in addition to the policy of a state health insurance agency (which, for example is the thing I have ... in addition to the "normal" health insurance by a state agency, I have an additional private insurance policy that guarantees me treatment by the chief physician, as well as a one bed room in hospital (or an adequate financial compensation per day in hospital, if no one bed room is available))

[Kidlicious]

The fact that our weakest aren't left out in the rain (as much as in he USA) actually justifies the european approach.

There is no justification for socialism, and when I say socialism I mean all of the ways that individual rights are violated in Europe, not just unjustified taxation.

You won't see all too many homeless people who carry all of their belongings in shopping carts in germany (people who liv on the streets usually choose by themselves to do so and not accept any help by the state). Therefore we also oly rarely have reports of people freezing to death due to lack of a roof over their heads.

That usually happens to people who could have gotten shelter but failed to go there. We make considerable effort to save the homeless from this tragedy. We have a large number of mentally ill and people suffering from addiction. They are difficult to take care of. They used to be confined to institutions, but that became problematic. Government isn't always a good solution. We can't even fix the VA, which is a broken promise of Obama BTW.

And it seems to me like it is very christian, to care for the needy:

It certainly is. Christians have always taken care if the needy, liberals and conservatives. Unfortunately there is a popular myth right now that conservatives don't take care of the needy.

Those verses sound more like a socialist aproach to life ... not one of individualistic capitalism

They sound like it, but they aren't. Socialism is a political ideology and it has nothing to do with Christianity. Although I have no problem with Christians being socialist, it's certainly not a commandment.

As for health insurances in germany:
Actually we have a certain degree of freedom ... every german has to have a certain basic health insurance protection, yes ... but we can hand tailor it to include additional services, either by taking private health insurances (instead of choosing a state insurance agency) or even taking private insurance policies in addition to the policy of a state health insurance agency (which, for example is the thing I have ... in addition to the "normal" health insurance by a state agency, I have an additional private insurance policy that guarantees me treatment by the chief physician, as well as a one bed room in hospital (or an adequate financial compensation per day in hospital, if no one bed room is available))

OK. I don't have a problem with some socialization of healthcare. I do think that politicians use it as a political wedge, and that's happening now on both sides. The people lose of course.

[Dr Strangelove]

Ha! Ha! The ACA has killed the AHCA!

[Aeson]

Already we are becoming a society without men.

Did you lose something? I still have mine ...

[BlackCat]

Guess that Kiddy started to hate freedom and democracy when he lost them

[giblets]

I didn't realize male children were getting culled. That truly is alarming.

[BlackCat]

Do we really know that Kiddy is a male ?

"It" whine a lot and don't accept facts, so it could easily be a female.

[Kidlicious]

Men don't live with their mom still. Just saying. I don't know if that applies to anyone here.

[kentonio]

There is no justification for socialism, and when I say socialism I mean all of the ways that individual rights are violated in Europe, not just unjustified taxation.

No justification apart from little irrelevant things like the people are happier, healthier and live longer.

That usually happens to people who could have gotten shelter but failed to go there. We make considerable effort to save the homeless from this tragedy. We have a large number of mentally ill and people suffering from addiction. They are difficult to take care of. They used to be confined to institutions, but that became problematic. Government isn't always a good solution. We can't even fix the VA, which is a broken promise of Obama BTW.

Ah yes, back when mental health institutionalization became 'problematic'.. Or to translate that into English, the time when Reagan decided that teh federal government shouldn't be responsible for mental health, slashed the **** out of funding and led to a situation 20 years later when an estimated 16% of all prison inmates were 'seriously mentally ill'. But hey, we can't have a government solution now, can we..

As for fixing the VA, damn that Obama and his failure to control his senators and congressmen!! Oh wait, those were Republicans..

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-veterans-congress-idUSBREA1Q26O20140227

http://www.blogs.va.gov/VAntage/19356/how-1-4-billion-in-budget-cuts-will-impact-veterans/

It certainly is. Christians have always taken care if the needy, liberals and conservatives. Unfortunately there is a popular myth right now that conservatives don't take care of the needy.

That may be because they keep slashing every funding program that helps poor or needy people, while pushing for larger and larger tax breaks for the super rich.

OK. I don't have a problem with some socialization of healthcare. I do think that politicians use it as a political wedge, and that's happening now on both sides. The people lose of course.

One side want the socialization of healthcare because in the real evidence based world it has been proven to deliver a cheaper, more efficient service with much better results. The other side doesn't want this, and refuse to accept the evidence from around the world because they believe healthcare companies should be free to make huge profits. Both sides are not equal, pick one.