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  • Originally posted by Kidicious View Post

    If you smack yourself on the ass you better not turn around and hit yourself over the head with a hammer.

    I yield to the voice of experience. Both of those must have hurt
    The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty…we will be remembered in spite of ourselves… The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the last generation… We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth.
    - A. Lincoln

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    • Trump: Obama listened to russian spies negotiating with my campaign people!

      Jesus, Kid...

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      • Originally posted by Kidicious View Post

        You are supposed to know it to get a high school diploma
        You are supposed to be able to use it, not just blindly copy and paste from it, to get even a high school diploma... as you will discover in just another couple of years.
        The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty…we will be remembered in spite of ourselves… The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the last generation… We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth.
        - A. Lincoln

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        • Originally posted by Berzerker View Post



          "Limited"? Over 1,000 in one year is not unprecedented

          if you're an analyst and you have a conversation between the russians and an american, you might need to know who the american was to understand the conversation. And until the names are unmasked, the analyst doesn't know if the american is a political opponent.[/B]
          Yes, something that happens about three times a day is "unprecedented"... to morons.
          The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty…we will be remembered in spite of ourselves… The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the last generation… We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth.
          - A. Lincoln

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          • Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
            Trump: Obama listened to russian spies negotiating with my campaign people!

            Jesus, Kid...
            ,Please don't let me stop you from explaining your conspiracy theory Sparky.
            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
            - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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            • Originally posted by grumbler View Post

              You are supposed to be able to use it, not just blindly copy and paste from it, to get even a high school diploma... as you will discover in just another couple of years.
              I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
              - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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              • Originally posted by Berzerker View Post



                "Limited"? Over 1,000 in one year is not unprecedented

                if you're an analyst and you have a conversation between the russians and an american, you might need to know who the american was to understand the conversation. And until the names are unmasked, the analyst doesn't know if the american is a political opponent.[/B]
                I don't think you understand. Is it your opinion that this has been done to people by their political opponents before?
                I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                • Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
                  I don't think you understand. Is it your opinion that this has been done to people by their political opponents before?
                  I don't think any political campaign has colluded with the enemies of the US before.
                  The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty…we will be remembered in spite of ourselves… The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the last generation… We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth.
                  - A. Lincoln

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                  • Originally posted by grumbler View Post

                    I don't think any political campaign has colluded with the enemies of the US before.
                    Why do you think there was collusion?
                    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                    - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                    • Originally posted by grumbler View Post

                      I don't think any political campaign has colluded with the enemies of the US before.
                      "October Surprise" was an allegation the Reagan campaign negotiated with Iran to keep our people prisoner so Carter wouldn't get a boost before the election... The fact Reagan stole our weapons and sold them to Iranian terrorists to fund Central American terrorists lends credence to the theory, the fact Iran let our people go as Reagan took office is also suspicious. I thought the Nixon campaign was involved in blocking a peace deal, but I might be wrong about that.

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                      • Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
                        I don't think you understand. Is it your opinion that this has been done to people by their political opponents before?
                        Its possible... The accusation is the Trump campaign was negotiating with the russians to ease or remove sanctions (and god only knows what else)... In return the russians interfered in our election to help him win. Hell, Trump even asked the russians to hack his political opponents. What other campaign did that? How do NSA analysts know they're unmasking a "political opponent" if they dont know who they are until after they've been unmasked?

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                        • Originally posted by Berzerker View Post

                          Its possible... The accusation is the Trump campaign was negotiating with the russians to ease or remove sanctions (and god only knows what else)... In return the russians interfered in our election to help him win. Hell, Trump even asked the russians to hack his political opponents. What other campaign did that? How do NSA analysts know they're unmasking a "political opponent" if they dont know who they are until after they've been unmasked?
                          Repeating myself again, Rice requested that the names of Trump associates be unmasked. The IC masked the names like they were supposed to, and they are professional analysts, not political appointees with an interest in finding information against their political opponents.

                          Also,, to repeat myself again, there is no criminal investigation of Trump, or any of the people unmasked unless one of them is Flynn. Rice was NOT a criminal investigator. The was a counterintelligence investigation of the Russians. We still don't have any direct evidence that a warrant was obtained.

                          And I can't believe that you think Trump asked the Russians to hack Hilarie's emails. I promise you that no one in the IC believes that. You got that from fake news.

                          The thing to bear in mind is that the White House does not do investigations. Not criminal investigations, not intelligence investigations.
                          Last edited by Kidlicious; April 7, 2017, 07:47.
                          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                          - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                          • Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
                            And I can't believe that you think Trump asked the Russians to hack Hilarie's emails.
                            Yah, that would be unbelievable...
                             

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                            • Reality is a liberal schmuck
                              Blah

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                              • Originally posted by Kidicious View Post

                                Repeating myself again, Rice requested that the names of Trump associates be unmasked. The IC masked the names like they were supposed to, and they are professional analysts, not political appointees with an interest in finding information against their political opponents.
                                And had they not talked to russian spies (rrsulting in their talks being wiretapped from the phones of said russsian spies), then this request wouldn't have turned up anything
                                With other words, this request is totally different from someone in Obamas government ordering the wiretapping/spying on Trump campaigners

                                Originally posted by Kidicious View Post

                                Also,, to repeat myself again, there is no criminal investigation of Trump, or any of the people unmasked unless one of them is Flynn. Rice was NOT a criminal investigator. The was a counterintelligence investigation of the Russians. We still don't have any direct evidence that a warrant was obtained.
                                So, you are a high ranking CIA/FBI professional who has access to top secret documents about ongoing investigations, even those that the FBI/CIA doesn't disclose to the public?

                                Originally posted by Kidicious View Post

                                And I can't believe that you think Trump asked the Russians to hack Hilarie's emails. I promise you that no one in the IC believes that. You got that from fake news.
                                Lets see:
                                1. Hackers (most probably russian ones) targeted eMails from Hillary Clinton & Associates during her run for presidency and published them
                                2. The same hackers didn't target Donald Trump, her competitor
                                3. Persons from Trumps campaign staff had phone conversations with russian agents

                                Yes, that lets it appear very suspicious.
                                If it were the other way round, Breitbart & Co would most probably immediately start 24/7 calls for Hillarys impeachment/arrest and all her a russian spy-president
                                Last edited by Proteus_MST; April 7, 2017, 08:19.
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