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The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty…we will be remembered in spite of ourselves… The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the last generation… We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth.
- A. Lincoln
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Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
You are supposed to know it to get a high school diplomaThe dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty…we will be remembered in spite of ourselves… The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the last generation… We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth.
- A. Lincoln
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Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
"Limited"? Over 1,000 in one year is not unprecedented
if you're an analyst and you have a conversation between the russians and an american, you might need to know who the american was to understand the conversation. And until the names are unmasked, the analyst doesn't know if the american is a political opponent.[/B]The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty…we will be remembered in spite of ourselves… The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the last generation… We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth.
- A. Lincoln
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Originally posted by Berzerker View PostTrump: Obama listened to russian spies negotiating with my campaign people!
Jesus, Kid...I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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Originally posted by grumbler View Post
You are supposed to be able to use it, not just blindly copy and paste from it, to get even a high school diploma... as you will discover in just another couple of years.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
"Limited"? Over 1,000 in one year is not unprecedented
if you're an analyst and you have a conversation between the russians and an american, you might need to know who the american was to understand the conversation. And until the names are unmasked, the analyst doesn't know if the american is a political opponent.[/B]
I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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Originally posted by Kidicious View PostI don't think you understand. Is it your opinion that this has been done to people by their political opponents before?The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty…we will be remembered in spite of ourselves… The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the last generation… We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth.
- A. Lincoln
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Originally posted by grumbler View Post
I don't think any political campaign has colluded with the enemies of the US before.
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Originally posted by Kidicious View PostI don't think you understand. Is it your opinion that this has been done to people by their political opponents before?
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Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
Its possible... The accusation is the Trump campaign was negotiating with the russians to ease or remove sanctions (and god only knows what else)... In return the russians interfered in our election to help him win. Hell, Trump even asked the russians to hack his political opponents. What other campaign did that? How do NSA analysts know they're unmasking a "political opponent" if they dont know who they are until after they've been unmasked?
Also,, to repeat myself again, there is no criminal investigation of Trump, or any of the people unmasked unless one of them is Flynn. Rice was NOT a criminal investigator. The was a counterintelligence investigation of the Russians. We still don't have any direct evidence that a warrant was obtained.
And I can't believe that you think Trump asked the Russians to hack Hilarie's emails. I promise you that no one in the IC believes that. You got that from fake news.
The thing to bear in mind is that the White House does not do investigations. Not criminal investigations, not intelligence investigations.Last edited by Kidlicious; April 7, 2017, 07:47.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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Originally posted by Kidicious View PostAnd I can't believe that you think Trump asked the Russians to hack Hilarie's emails.
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Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
Repeating myself again, Rice requested that the names of Trump associates be unmasked. The IC masked the names like they were supposed to, and they are professional analysts, not political appointees with an interest in finding information against their political opponents.
With other words, this request is totally different from someone in Obamas government ordering the wiretapping/spying on Trump campaigners
Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
Also,, to repeat myself again, there is no criminal investigation of Trump, or any of the people unmasked unless one of them is Flynn. Rice was NOT a criminal investigator. The was a counterintelligence investigation of the Russians. We still don't have any direct evidence that a warrant was obtained.
Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
And I can't believe that you think Trump asked the Russians to hack Hilarie's emails. I promise you that no one in the IC believes that. You got that from fake news.
1. Hackers (most probably russian ones) targeted eMails from Hillary Clinton & Associates during her run for presidency and published them
2. The same hackers didn't target Donald Trump, her competitor
3. Persons from Trumps campaign staff had phone conversations with russian agents
Yes, that lets it appear very suspicious.
If it were the other way round, Breitbart & Co would most probably immediately start 24/7 calls for Hillarys impeachment/arrest and all her a russian spy-presidentLast edited by Proteus_MST; April 7, 2017, 08:19.Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"
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