Fake News Reporting Thread

[Kidlicious]

Trump gets two scoops of ice cream, everyone else gets one!

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/11/politics/trump-time-magazine-ice-cream/index.html?sr=fbCNN051117trump-time-magazine-ice-cream0800PMStoryLink&linkId=37488638

How stupid are liberals?!

[Kidlicious]

It is your hpothesis that Trump is under no investigation.
But it is not my theory that Trump is under investigation.
My assumption is that we don't know whether or not Trump is under investigation.
And that Trumps claims, that Comey told him that he is under no investigation, are alternative facts

But I also think tht a number of members of the Trump team are under investigation (or close to the targets of investigation) and that those investigations may also reveal things that are embarassing for Mr. President.

And nope, I don't think that those investigations will necessarily turn up any evidence. If Trump appoints smeeone as new FBI director, who knows that he has to be loyal to the PoTUS and not to the american people (perhaps someone from the Trump family, after all Trump still has a few sons who have no position in the US gvernment yet ... perhaps Barron, that would make him the youngest FBI director ever) then this new FBI director will know that his duty is, to strip the rrussia investigation of all its resources and instead put those resources into finding the WH leaks which provide the fake news media with informations

Ah. K. You are not paying attention to facts or something.

[Aeson]

Why was Spicer fired? For not hiding in the bushes well enough?

In any case, Spicer is probably the happiest he's ever been to no longer have to stand up there and try to defend Trump's latest absurdity.

[Kidlicious]

Why was Spicer fired? For not hiding in the bushes well enough?

In any case, Spicer is probably the happiest he's ever been to no longer have to stand up there and try to defend Trump's latest absurdity.

I think Trump just wants to go a different direction. Spider was a push over. The next one will take it to them. Maybe a woman. That would be sweet.

[Uncle Sparky]

This is not the worst day of the Trump presidency... the worst is still to come.

[Aeson]

I should note that Kid's Spicer firing comes from Infowars which claims it will happen soon. Initially they were reporting it had already happened.

They also claim Priebus is going to be fired.

... At this point you could just start throwing darts at an organizational chart of the admin and as long as you don't hit a Trump family member you're likely to be right soon enough.

[Proteus_MST]

Here btw. the differences in account of the private talk in which Comey allegedly told Trump that he was "not under an investigation"

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/11/u...imes&smtyp=cur

2 different versions.
The version of Comey doesn't mentin any questiony by Trump regarding any investigation of his own person, but mentions that Trump demanded that he (Comey) should assure him of his loyalty to Trump
(which, understandably, after all the FBI is supposed to be loyal to the american people, not Mister PotUS) didn't want to assure to him)

Considering Mister Trumps behavior,Comeys accounts sounds more believable to me

[Kidlicious]

Here btw. the differences in account of the private talk in which Comey allegedly told Trump that he was "not under an investigation"

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/11/u...imes&smtyp=cur

2 different versions.
The version of Comey doesn't mentin any questiony by Trump regarding any investigation of his own person, but mentions that Trump demanded that he (Comey) should assure him of his loyalty to Trump
(which, understandably, after all the FBI is supposed to be loyal to the american people, not Mister PotUS) didn't want to assure to him)

Considering Mister Trumps behavior,Comeys accounts sounds more believable to me

Can you post the exact part in which someone other than the NYTs says that Comey didn't tell him that he wasn't under investigation?

It would be something like "Source told NYTs that Comey didn't tell Trump that he wasn't under investigation."

[Kidlicious]

12 times Dems, Repubs said no evidence of Trump-Russia collusion; 10 times people claimed there was

• by sattkisson
• on May 11, 2017
• in News
• 2 Comments

• To date, scandalous accusations of treason against Trump haven’t borne out
  
  
• Incendiary claims unsupported by public evidence after 10 months of probes
  
  

The following is a news analysis

Ten months after questions were first raised, there’s no evidence that Donald Trump “colluded” with Russia, according to prominent Democrats and Republicans who have reviewed information or received briefings.

It’s too early to call it a closed case, because various investigations into Russian influence in the 2016 campaign and links to Trump associates continue. That reportedly includes probes by the FBI, Republican-led congressional committees, and the military. The FBI has largely stayed mum on its work. But yesterday, President Trump claimed James Comey, as FBI Director, personally told him he was not under investigation.

It’s significant that no evidence of wrongdoing by Trump has publicly surfaced long after multiple players in politics and media began insisting there wascollusion. Among the allegations of treasonous behavior was a “dossier” peddled to the media and published in January. It made lurid claims about Trump ties to Russia, involving bribery and prostitution. But it turns out the dossier wasn’t an intelligence report; it was campaign opposition research compiled by Trump political opponents.

This week, Former Defense Intelligence Agency chief James Clapper told Congress that the sourcing trail of the dossier was so poor, that the entire file was excluded from in an intelligence communityassessment in January.

Yet despite the persistent dearth of evidence, there’s been no widespread backtracking by those who have made claims against President Trump to date. The Flynn Question

Whether President Trump conspired with Russia in some way is separate from questions about some of his associates, including former national security adviser, Lt. Col. Michael Flynn.

Among other matters, Flynn is under fire for:

• Having discussions with the Russian ambassador to the U.S. that he didn’t disclose to President Trump or Vice President Mike Pence (not inherently against the law, but an ethics question and the reason he was let go from the Trump administration, according to experts); and
• Allegedly failing to seek permission from or disclosing to the U.S. government his $67,000 in payments from Russian organizations (a possible violation of federal law, according to members of Congress).
  
  
  
  Russian Ambassador to U.S. Kiselev

A Flynn spokesman has said he informed the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) before and after giving a paid speech in Moscow. DIA spokesman Jim Kudlaconfirmed that Flynn reported prior to his trip “in accordance with standard security clearance procedures.”



The problem with the media, politicians, commentators and pundits getting ahead of the evidence or contradicting it entirely, is that it erodes trust in the accuracy of information. If and when real evidence emerges, the public may mistrust what they read and hear.

Here are 12 public statements about lack of evidence by those who have reviewed evidence or been briefed, followed by a sampling of 10 claims against Trump. What were the claims based on if there was no evidence yet? (Italics emphasis added)



1. The New York Times
Nov. 1, 2016
According to the newspaper, the FBI says there’s no definitive connection between Donald Trump and the Russian government, reaching that conclusion after a wide-ranging investigation. The Times cited law-enforcement officials who said any cyberattacks carried out were “aimed at disrupting the presidential election rather than electing Trump.” The FBI also foundno conclusive evidence of deliberate communicationsbetween Trump and a Russian bank, that were alleged earlier.

President Trump

2. Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wisconsin, House Speaker)
Feb. 28, 2017
“No one has ever showed us any evidence that any collusion had occurred between an American involved with the political system and the Russians.”



3. James Clapper (Former Obama Director of National Intelligence)
March 5, 2017
“[Regarding] NSA, FBI…CIA…Director of National Intelligence (DNI), that had anything, that had any reflection of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians, there was no evidence of that included in our [January] report,” Clapper testified. He was asked, “…but does it exist?” He answered, “Not to my knowledge.”

Former Obama Director of National Intelligence James Clapper

4. Rep. Devin Nunes (R-California, House Intelligence Committee Chairman)
March 20, 2017
During a hearing, Nunes questioned then-FBI Director James Comey:
NUNES: Do you have any evidence that any current Trump White House or administration official coordinated with the Russian intelligence services?
COMEY: Not a question I can answer…
NUNES: Well, I think — I understand that…but I can tell you that we don’t have any evidence and we’re conducting our own investigation here.

Rep. Devin Nunes, Chairman of House Intelligence Committee

5. James Comey, then-FBI Director
March 20, 2017
Comey was asked if he agreed with former Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Clapper who said there was “no evidence” of “collusion between the members of the Trump campaign and the Russians.” Comey replied, “I think he’s right about characterizing the [January] report which you all have read.”



6. Rep. Chris Stewart, (R-Utah, House Intelligence Committee)
March 20, 2017
“At this point, everyone on this dais should agree with Mr. Clapper because we in the committee have seen no evidence, zero, that would indicate that there was collusion or criminal wrongdoing between any members of the previous [sic] administration or campaign and Russian officials.”



The Kremlin in Moscow is the official residence of the Russia’s President.

7. Rep. Adam Schiff (D-California, House Intelligence Committee)
April 2, 2017
When asked, “Can you say definitively that there was collusion, there were people affiliated with the Trump campaign who were working with Russians to time the release of damaging information about Hillary Clinton that had been hacked either from [Hillary campaign chair] John Podesta or the DNC?” Schiff replied, “I don’t think we can say anything definitively at this point.”



8. Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California, Senate Intelligence Committee)
May 3, 2017
When asked if she had evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia during the 2016 presidential campaign, Feinstein replied, “Not at this time.”



9. Sen. Joe Manchin (D-West Virginia, Senate Intelligence Committee)
May 8, 2017
“People that might have said they were involved, to what extent they were involved, to what extent the president might have known about these people or whatever, there is nothing there from that standpoint that we have seen directly linking our president to any of that.”



10. James Clapper (again)
May 8, 2017
At a hearing, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina) asked Clapper if it’s still accurate that he has no knowledge of the existence of evidence of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians. Clapper replied, “It is.”

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC)
Photograph by: Frank Plitt via Wikimedia Commons

11. Rep. Maxine Waters (D-California)
May 9, 2017
Rep. Waters has repeatedly stated that President Trump “has colluded with the Russians,” but when asked if she has seen evidence to back up her claims, Waters replied: “No, we have not.”



12. President Donald Trump
May 9, 2017
In a letter of termination to FBI Director Comey, President Trump wrote that Comey had informed him “on three occasions that I am not under investigation.” (This hasn’t been independently confirmed by the FBI or Comey.)



President Donald J. Trump A sampling of claims against Trump:

1. Politics USA and Huffington Post writer Sarah Jones
“October Shocker: FBI Has Explosive Information on Trump Conspiring With Putin”
“Senator Harry Reid dropped the bomb that the FBI and national security experts possess “explosive information” about ties and coordination between Russia and Donald Trump and his campaign.”
Oct. 30, 2016

2. Money & Power blog by Keith Girard
“Trump Treason: Did He Collaborate With Russians to Steal Election?”
Dec. 9, 2016



3. Politico story written by Former Assistant Secretary of Defense for Russia Evelyn Farkas
“When it comes to Russia and its relationship with Donald Trump, the election hacking may be only the tip of the iceberg.”
Dec. 12, 2016



4. Was Trump lured into a Russian honey trap?
Jan. 12, 2017

5. New York Times letter to the editor by Michael Morell, former acting head of the CIA
“Does Vladimir Putin “own” Donald Trump?”
“In the intelligence business, we would say that Mr. Putin had recruited Mr. Trump as an unwitting agent of the Russian Federation.”
Feb. 10, 2017



Former CIA Deputy Director Mike Morell

6. Tweets by former NSA intelligence analyst John Schindler
“He will Die in Jail”: Intelligence Community Ready to “Go Nuclear” on Trump over “The President’s collusion with Russian intelligence.”
Feb. 15, 2017



7. Michael Moore Tweet:
Trump “Colluded” With Russians, Should Step Down
Feb. 16, 2017



8. Newsweek story by Ryan Goodman
“The Russian plot: how Putin and Trump colluded”
Feb. 17, 2017



9. Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA)
President Donald Trump “absolutely was in collusion with the Kremlin and Putin and Russia during the campaign.”
Feb. 17, 2017
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10. Daily Kos article by writer Mark Sumner
Comey revealed that the FBI had possible evidence of collusion with Russia—then Trump fired him
May 10, 2017

[grumbler]

There is no evidence other than Trump's (clearly worthless) word that Comey told Trump that he was not under investigation even once, let alone three times. It is likelier that Trump was telling the truth about winning the popular vote than he is telling the truth about what Comey told him.

I wonder what the over/under is on the number of days it will take Trump to decide which story about why he fired Comey will be the final one. You'd have thought he'd learned by now that it is harder and less rewarding to lie when there are people listening who are not inclined to kiss his ass. Yet, he just keeps lying.

[Kidlicious]

There is no evidence other than Trump's (clearly worthless) word that Comey told Trump that he was not under investigation even once, let alone three times. It is likelier that Trump was telling the truth about winning the popular vote than he is telling the truth about what Comey told him.

I wonder what the over/under is on the number of days it will take Trump to decide which story about why he fired Comey will be the final one. You'd have thought he'd learned by now that it is harder and less rewarding to lie when there are people listening who are not inclined to kiss his ass. Yet, he just keeps lying.

You're lying, saying that Comey didn't tell him that. You're just trying to start a fight over nothing just like all those stupid SJWs trying to get Civil War monuments removed.

[Proteus_MST]

You're lying, saying that Comey didn't tell him that. You're just trying to start a fight over nothing just like all those stupid SJWs trying to get Civil War monuments removed.

Actually grumblers statement is clearly fact based:

1) We have nothing but Trumps word that Comey told him that he is not under investigation.
Fact ... If you have evidence of the contrary then please show it to us, Kid

2) Trumps word is worthless.
Considering how often he broke his word in the past months (just look at his many broken election promises) this can also be seen as a Fact
(not to forget his past relationship with "truth", even before the election campaign)

[Kidlicious]

Actually grumblers statement is clearly fact based:

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No, you people demonize people to no end, which is the most insidious kind of lying, like Hitler. Then you say Trump must be lying because of everything we have said about him. There is no facts. That is horse manure.

[Kidlicious]

This is a run down of all of this crap. She's a great reporter that has been blacklisted but now she has her own website and reports real news.

12 times Dems, Repubs said no evidence of Trump-Russia collusion; 10 times people claimed there was

https://sharylattkisson.com/11-times...l+Attkisson%29,

[Kidlicious]

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