The last ten days

[Kidlicious]

Interesting article about the US voting system as well as education, as seen from outside of the USA:
http://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2...-usa-democracy

Not much different from the anti-Trump dribble here in the states. The US isn't any different because some candidate for governor of NC didn't accept the results of an election right away.

I was talking with a relative of mine in the UK today. I understand that you are all afraid if nazis and world war, but we don't have those problems. But the media and the left are lying to you, saying that we do for their own benefit.

[Proteus_MST]

Not much different from the anti-Trump dribble here in the states. The US isn't any different because some candidate for governor of NC didn't accept the results of an election right away.

I was talking with a relative of mine in the UK today. I understand that you are all afraid if nazis and world war, but we don't have those problems. But the media and the left are lying to you, saying that we do for their own benefit.

Hm ... the USA is de facto different (at least from germany) in all the regards mentioned in the article.
We don't have problems with voter registration, as everyone in germany has an ID card (and therefore they just need to turn up at their esignated election location in order to cast their vote) (also the election always takes place on a sunday, so almost noone had to tak a day off in order to vote)
Therefore no possible discrimination of poor or minority voters with regards to their ability to vote.

Likewise, as mentioned in the article, the voting district aren't determined by he ruling party, but rather are independently determined (nd therefore also stay fixed regardless of who is curently in power in a state/city)

I also never ever heard about the losing party challenging the election results via court ... or about the losing party (if it peviously had power in the state) changing the laws in order to diminish the powwer of the successor. (actually it is only natural that the latter doesn't happen ... we don't vote governs or presidents directly ... we only vote for the members/parties in the federal and state parliaments ... and our chancellor and president, as well as the state governor, then is selected by said parliament (which also means that the parties negotiate among themselves after election about who is got to be the president/chancellor/governor, as well as which important ministerial positions are taken by whch party) ... our governments always are the results of the compromise between several parties (as it is rare that one party alone has >50% of parliament seats and therfore had to cooperate with one or more other parties in order to get to > 50% of parliamentary votes in order to effectively govern))

Likewise, germany has an adequately funded public education syste and no attemps at replacing it with a system of private schools, so we don't ave the problem

With regards to fear from the german right ... yes, maybe you don't have this fear ... on the other hand the USA had a similar (or even worse) fear of the extreme left/communists ... just remember the McCarthy era

[Bereta_Eder]

what made an impression in the article was the very high % of distrust in the government and the justice system. I thought that was only happening here since we are (or think we are) a peculiarity and take morbid pleasure in talking ourselves down but it seems it is a wide spread phenomenon

(then again the very high % of trust in the army and the church probably justifies such an approach)

[kentonio]

Not much different from the anti-Trump dribble here in the states. The US isn't any different because some candidate for governor of NC didn't accept the results of an election right away.

I was talking with a relative of mine in the UK today. I understand that you are all afraid if nazis and world war, but we don't have those problems. But the media and the left are lying to you, saying that we do for their own benefit.

You're standing on a burning ship screaming "How could there possibly be a fire?! Can't you see all this water, idiots?!?!".

[pchang]

I called it. 1984 is now number 1 on Amazon.com.

[Kidlicious]

Hm ... the USA is de facto different (at least from germany) in all the regards mentioned in the article.
We don't have problems with voter registration, as everyone in germany has an ID card (and therefore they just need to turn up at their esignated election location in order to cast their vote) (also the election always takes place on a sunday, so almost noone had to tak a day off in order to vote)
Therefore no possible discrimination of poor or minority voters with regards to their ability to vote.

Likewise, as mentioned in the article, the voting district aren't determined by he ruling party, but rather are independently determined (nd therefore also stay fixed regardless of who is curently in power in a state/city)

I also never ever heard about the losing party challenging the election results via court ... or about the losing party (if it peviously had power in the state) changing the laws in order to diminish the powwer of the successor. (actually it is only natural that the latter doesn't happen ... we don't vote governs or presidents directly ... we only vote for the members/parties in the federal and state parliaments ... and our chancellor and president, as well as the state governor, then is selected by said parliament (which also means that the parties negotiate among themselves after election about who is got to be the president/chancellor/governor, as well as which important ministerial positions are taken by whch party) ... our governments always are the results of the compromise between several parties (as it is rare that one party alone has >50% of parliament seats and therfore had to cooperate with one or more other parties in order to get to > 50% of parliamentary votes in order to effectively govern))

Likewise, germany has an adequately funded public education syste and no attemps at replacing it with a system of private schools, so we don't ave the problem

With regards to fear from the german right ... yes, maybe you don't have this fear ... on the other hand the USA had a similar (or even worse) fear of the extreme left/communists ... just remember the McCarthy era

McCarthy was censured, which is very rare. The era was not very long, as cooler heads prevailed. It is looked back on as a dark period. We didn't have many actual enemies as McCarthy said.

Yet in Germany you have a problem that many people do not have a voice. People can't even make racist comments. The police will come and take you to jail. You don't have a tradition of individualism like we do. Even your right wing is socialist there.

[kentonio]

Yet in Germany you have a problem that many people do not have a voice. People can't even make racist comments.

You see this as a problem?

[Bereta_Eder]

I like to watch the jaw of my bojo right wing friends when they drool over capitalist countries that in Holland 75% of all rents are state subsidized etc
I'm actually more capitalist than them, in the sense that they hide behind third world banners instead of looking reality in the eye.

Another good jaw dropper is telling them that in germany the first kid born is immideately subsidized with 600 euros.

[Bereta_Eder]

per month

[Bereta_Eder]

they basically think that if you pay maintenance for every step you walk on the pavement greece will turn into a powerhouse (that's actually code for apointing their own guys in the public sector, controlling the banks and be left alone while they take loans in the name of their companies to fatten their pockets for free)

[Bereta_Eder]

as a sidenote my mom just confirmed that we had indeed gone from france to england with a boat to see england when I was 10. so i'm not imagining things

from calais to "something starting with d"
probably dover

[Bereta_Eder]

that's when she took the wrong turn and we walked through soho and I saw people puking, fighting and hookers.
I was very upset and said that as a small kid I am not supposed to see such decadence and it's her fault.

Apparently I made her atone for that by going to a fast food place and order a big fat burger and a coke.
So everything was ok

[giblets]

I like to watch the jaw of my bojo right wing friends when they drool over capitalist countries that in Holland 75% of all rents are state subsidized etc
I'm actually more capitalist than them, in the sense that they hide behind third world banners instead of looking reality in the eye.

Another good jaw dropper is telling them that in germany the first kid born is immideately subsidized with 600 euros.

The German government is trying to prop up Germany's low birth rate. If they don't pay people to have children, the Germans may soon go extinct.

[Proteus_MST]

The German government is trying to prop up Germany's low birth rate. If they don't pay people to have children, the Germans may soon go extinct.

Pursuing a career usually is more tempting than being a stay at home mum or dad ... for both genders
And if there are children it is usually rather a single child than 2 or more.

Actually the number of children in a family and the education level of the parents usually are reciprocal vaariables (i.e. the lower the education level, the more kids ... and also, the lower the education level, the higher the chance that the first kid is an "accident" during he time when mother and/or father still are students at school)

[N35t0r]

the lower the education level, the higher the chance that the first kid is an "accident" during he time when mother and/or father still are students at school)

Well, that's a bit self-evident