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  • Originally posted by BlackCat View Post
    So free trade inside a countrys boundaries is good while free trade between countries is bad. That is so contradictionary that it doesn't make any sense.
    I didn't realize a country needed free trade within itself. Did the States charge each other tariffs? Did they all have to sign deals?

    Free trade is a euphemism. It has many disastrous consequences.
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • Originally posted by Giancarlo View Post
      I didn't realize a country needed free trade within itself. Did the States charge each other tariffs? Did they all have to sign deals?

      Free trade is a euphemism. It has many disastrous consequences.
      Would it help the poor if states started charging tariffs?

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      • Originally posted by giblets View Post
        Would it help the poor if states started charging tariffs?
        What happens internally in a country is called domestic consumption. If you eat a potato from Idaho that isn't related to so called "free" trade.
        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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        • Originally posted by Giancarlo View Post
          What happens internally in a country is called domestic consumption. If you eat a potato from Idaho that isn't related to so called "free" trade.
          Errmm... yes it is... there is free trade between states. If you forced everyone in New Jersey to only buy potatoes that were grown in New Jersey, the poor in New Jersey would be worse off.

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          • Originally posted by giblets View Post
            Errmm... yes it is... there is free trade between states. If you forced everyone in New Jersey to only buy potatoes that were grown in New Jersey, the poor in New Jersey would be worse off.
            Um that's called domestic consumption. Not free trade.

            Free trade only serves the extremely rich in making more money.
            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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            • Originally posted by Giancarlo View Post
              Um that's called domestic consumption. Not free trade.

              Free trade only serves the extremely rich in making more money.
              Domestic consumption in the United States is free of tariffs and other trade barriers, making it free trade. Some countries do have barriers to trade between different parts of the country.

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              • Originally posted by giblets View Post
                Domestic consumption in the United States is free of tariffs and other trade barriers, making it free trade. Some countries do have barriers to trade between different parts of the country.
                And... I have this miracle liquid in a bottle that can regrow hair, cure cancer and make everybody superheroes.

                In other words, keep telling yourself that. It isn't free trade. You are getting confused.
                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                • Then maybe you should provide your definition of free trade instead of simply always saying that free trade sucks and only is good for the rich.
                  Keep on Civin'
                  RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                  • That is his definition.
                    “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

                    ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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                    • Originally posted by pchang View Post
                      That is his definition.
                      So true.
                      Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                      • Originally posted by Giancarlo View Post
                        I didn't realize a country needed free trade within itself. Did the States charge each other tariffs? Did they all have to sign deals?

                        Free trade is a euphemism. It has many disastrous consequences.
                        Actually, yes, at one time U. S. states did charge each other tariffs. Which is one of the reasons the constitution forbid such restraints on trade when it replaced the articles of confederation.
                        Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                        • Originally posted by Dinner View Post
                          Actually, yes, at one time U. S. states did charge each other tariffs. Which is one of the reasons the constitution forbid such restraints on trade when it replaced the articles of confederation.
                          That isn't free trade. That is a unified country doing internal business. You view free trade as a cure all and I question that dangerous mindset.

                          Oh and I gave my definition of free trade. Corporate colonalism basically. Blood diamonds is one key example of this.
                          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                          • Originally posted by Dinner View Post
                            So true.
                            I can speak for myself.
                            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                            • You realize blood diamonds are illegal to trade? So your definition is the exact opposite of free trade.

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                              • Originally posted by Aeson View Post
                                You realize blood diamonds are illegal to trade? So your definition is the exact opposite of free trade.
                                Illegal? In free trade there should be no rules according to the libertarian nonsense it is based on. No regulation. Your statement makes no sense.

                                Free trade is corporate colonialism.
                                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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