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  • Originally posted by C0ckney View Post
    i looked at the situation using logic and good sense, made a prediction about what was going on, and, in the end, i was proved right.

    you passed it through your idiolectic and got it wrong; however, that same intellectually dishonest process now means that you will claim to have been right despite having been proved wrong. this is why most people don't bother debating with you anymore.
    I didn't give any opinion on whether Trump did or didn't, and explicitly stated that doing so would be wrong. You can't even accurately assess what has been said in this thread.

    You were wrong to pass judgment without evidence, whether your guess happens to be correct or not. Your phrasing clearly indicated you had passed judgment even before the article you posted, which was itself not sufficient to make a well founded judgment from.

    The fact that you prejudged the woman to be a liar without evidence shows your misogynistic bias. It's telling that you support Trump, who regardless of the validity of any of these specific claims is clearly misogynistic as well.

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    • i made my judgement on the situation based on the known facts, logic and my own experience, which i explained very clearly, and i was right. but to be honest anyone could have looked at the facts, used a little common sense to assess the situation and come to the same correct conclusion. you passed it through your idiolectic, as you do every time. that is what you got wrong, as you do every time. and now you are reduced to saying that i was wrong, even though i was right, because i didn't use your idiolectic, as you do every time.
      "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

      "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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      • aeson are you ok?
        fever?

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        • Originally posted by kentonio View Post
          Go and look up the definition of grammar, ****wit.
          Grammar, from the greek word "gramma" which means letter, contains all the rules of writing

          Orthography, from the greek words "orthos"- standing up, correct and "graphy" - writing, literally means correct writing and it refers to orthographical errors (using the wrong vowel for example)

          Syntax - from the greek word "syntasso" - to compose is something else that I'm bored to say now

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          • the double meaning of "orthos" (both erect and correct) leads to funny jokes such as: "you spoke correctly despite sitting down"

            paiktis is a nerd/ahhzz

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            • Originally posted by C0ckney View Post
              i made my judgement on the situation based on the known facts, logic and my own experience, which i explained very clearly, and i was right. but to be honest anyone could have looked at the facts, used a little common sense to assess the situation and come to the same correct conclusion. you passed it through your idiolectic, as you do every time. that is what you got wrong, as you do every time. and now you are reduced to saying that i was wrong, even though i was right, because i didn't use your idiolectic, as you do every time.
              There are many women who are raped or assaulted who do not come forward at the time out of fear of harassment or embarrassment. It's not the evidence you pretend it is.

              There often is blowback against claimants, especially in high profile cases. It's not impossible someone would withdraw based on harassment. Again, it was not evidence.

              All you had was conjecture where you allowed your preconceived bias to drive your judgment. In a case of "he said she said" you have a 50:50 chance of guessing which is which correctly, but making the judgment (either way) without evidence is always wrong.

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              • Originally posted by Bereta_Eder View Post
                aeson are you ok?
                fever?
                I'm fine.

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                • Originally posted by kentonio View Post
                  Go and look up the definition of grammar, ****wit.
                  In linguistics, grammar is the set of structural rules governing the composition of clauses, phrases, and words in any given natural language. The term refers also to the study of such rules, and this field includes morphology, syntax, and phonology, often complemented by phonetics, semantics, and pragmatics.


                  An orthography is a set of conventions for writing a language. It includes norms of spelling, hyphenation, capitalization, word breaks, emphasis, and punctuation.


                  You're a ****ing idiot

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                  • Originally posted by Aeson View Post
                    There are many women who are raped or assaulted who do not come forward at the time out of fear of harassment or embarrassment. It's not the evidence you pretend it is.

                    There often is blowback against claimants, especially in high profile cases. It's not impossible someone would withdraw based on harassment. Again, it was not evidence.

                    All you had was conjecture where you allowed your preconceived bias to drive your judgment. In a case of "he said she said" you have a 50:50 chance of guessing which is which correctly, but making the judgment (either way) without evidence is always wrong.


                    i have dealt with all those points in earlier posts in this thread. based on the circumstances, which were presented to you in very clear and unambiguous language, it was not '50:50', and it is typically dishonest of you to try to pretend that it was.
                    "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

                    "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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                    • Actually, it still is 50:50. It's still he said/she said. The fact that she isn't going forward is not proof of anything. His denials are not proof of anything.
                      We will never know who is telling the truth here. Unless you have some actual proof....
                      Keep on Civin'
                      RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                      • Originally posted by C0ckney View Post


                        i have dealt with all those points in earlier posts in this thread. based on the circumstances, which were presented to you in very clear and unambiguous language, it was not '50:50', and it is typically dishonest of you to try to pretend that it was.
                        Your wording made it clear you had judged her before even coming across the story of the case being withdrawn. Your "address" of the arguments was to simply deny the obvious reality that rape victims do often not report due to fear of reprisal or embarrassment.

                        You simply adopted a common misogynistic response to rape accusations. You deemed the woman a liar without evidence to back up your judgment.

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                        • Originally posted by Ming View Post
                          Actually, it still is 50:50. It's still he said/she said. The fact that she isn't going forward is not proof of anything. His denials are not proof of anything.
                          We will never know who is telling the truth here. Unless you have some actual proof....
                          no, it isn't.

                          when there was a he said/she said situation, then yes it was 50:50. at that stage, my position was 'someone has made an accusation, which has been hotly denied, let's see what happens in court'. then the pre-case press conference was cancelled citing 'intimidation' and the suit was withdrawn. as i explained earlier in the thread, people are not afraid of suing donald trump, which makes intimidation unlikely, and my experience of working with civil law told me that the most likely explanations for dropping the suit were that a settlement had been reached or that the suit simply lacked merit. the former was unlikely because of the way it was withdrawn (in such a case an agreement is normally made to drop things quietly; citing 'death threats' wouldn't qualify!); the latter, therefore, was most likely.

                          i wasn't 100% certain, and indeed i admitted that i could be wrong. nevertheless, my reasoning was solid and my view of events has subsequently been confirmed in the press.
                          "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

                          "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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                          • Originally posted by Aeson View Post
                            Your wording made it clear you had judged her before even coming across the story of the case being withdrawn. Your "address" of the arguments was to simply deny the obvious reality that rape victims do often not report due to fear of reprisal or embarrassment.

                            You simply adopted a common misogynistic response to rape accusations. You deemed the woman a liar without evidence to back up your judgment.
                            OK, so now you're just reduced to making things up and flailing about incoherently trying to claim i said things i didn't say. i would say that you're better than that, but we both know it's not true.
                            "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

                            "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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                            • completely unrelated but I always thought Aeson meant something maybe in philipenesian (I know that's not a word).
                              because asians sometimes use "son" (I got this from karate kid - daneil-son)

                              BUT NO!

                              it's this

                              In Greek mythology, Aeson (Greek: Αἴσων Aísōn) was the son of Cretheus and Tyro. He had two other brothers Pheres and Amythaon. Aeson was the father of Jason and Promachus with Polymele, the daughter of Autolycus.[1] Other sources say the mother of his children was Alcimede[2] or Amphinome.[3] Aeson's mother Tyro had two other sons, Neleus and Pelias, with the sea god Poseidon.[4]

                              aeson is Αίσωνας!!!!!!!!!

                              I'll be damn
                              Γηράσκω αεί διδασκόμενος
                              ("I'm getting older while being taught all the time")

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                              • It's still a he said/she said situation. Her dropping the case for now doesn't change that.
                                Your "reasoning" is simply your opinion. And, you "could" be right.
                                But there is NO PROOF either way at this point.
                                Keep on Civin'
                                RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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