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  • It wasn't a moral assessment, but rather a logical one. And my assessment was correct. You are displaying unwillingness or incapacity to accept the wide range of possible explanations for the events in question. You have no actual evidence to support your claim of what is most likely.

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    • once again you show your inability to understand occam's razor.
      "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

      "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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      • Originally posted by C0ckney View Post
        the fact that the alleged victim never reported the incident but rather brought a civil suit which was withdrawn suggests that the said suit, and thus the allegations, were without merit.
        When did Cockney become such a myopic douche?

        Hard to justify victim-blaming a then-13-year-old, dude.
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        • Originally posted by Aeson View Post
          It wasn't a moral assessment, but rather a logical one. And my assessment was correct. You are displaying unwillingness or incapacity to accept the wide range of possible explanations for the events in question. You have no actual evidence to support your claim of what is most likely.
          Give up on him. He's not worth the effort.

          He's a hypocrite.
          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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          • One other thing, I presume the lawsuit was dismissed without prejudice. In America, that means they can refile it at any time with good cause. And she may very well do that.
            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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            • Originally posted by -Jrabbit View Post
              When did Cockney become such a myopic douche?

              Hard to justify victim-blaming a then-13-year-old, dude.
              you're not an idiot, so i'll just assume that you misread what i'm saying here. victim blaming would be saying something like 'well yes, she was raped, but what did she expect wearing such a short skirt?' i'm saying that taking the sequences of events together, the most likely explanation is that her story isn't true or that it cannot be proved.
              "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

              "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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              • Originally posted by Giancarlo View Post
                One other thing, I presume the lawsuit was dismissed without prejudice. In America, that means they can refile it at any time with good cause. And she may very well do that.
                she withdrew it voluntarily, as i said in the quoted part of the first post on the subject.
                "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

                "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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                • Originally posted by C0ckney View Post
                  once again you show your inability to understand occam's razor.
                  Wrong.

                  Occam's razor doesn't apply to this case. Your implication that it does displays your ignorance of what Occam's razor is. For it to be applicable in the way you have implied you used it, we would have to presuppose that all possibilities included her lying about the incident. That is clearly not the case.

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                  • Originally posted by Aeson View Post
                    Wrong.

                    Occam's razor doesn't apply to this case. Your implication that it does displays your ignorance of what Occam's razor is. For it to be applicable in the way you have implied you used it, we would have to presuppose that all possibilities included her lying about the incident. That is clearly not the case.
                    typical nonsense from you. with nothing to say, you affirm that the other person doesn't understand something elementary.
                    "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

                    "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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                    • IN AMERICA, even if one files a DISMISSAL WITHOUT PREJUDICE (ON THEIR OWN) THEY CAN REFILE AT ANY TIME.

                      Believe me, I know more than you in this field and don't get into this with me.
                      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                      • i thought you were ignoring me. why are you such a rotten liar?
                        "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

                        "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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                        • *yawn*
                          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                          • Originally posted by C0ckney View Post
                            typical nonsense from you. with nothing to say, you affirm that the other person doesn't understand something elementary.
                            You are clearly ignorant of what Occam's razor is.

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                            • well one of us certainly is.
                              "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

                              "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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                              • You think Occam's razor is helpful in determining between "she's lying" and "she's telling the truth" in a rape allegation. It's not. When there is a lack of empirical evidence the factors in explanations on either side can always be reduced to the same number/complexity.

                                You have presupposed she's lying. That is just your bias.

                                Since you made the claim I passed moral judgement, I will do so now. You are showing yourself to be a misogynist by adopting the tried and true method of discrediting rape allegations by impugning the character of the alleged victim and making light of the possible blowbacks they face.

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