Education, politics and war

[Kidlicious]

Actually it was both. The company that did this does a lot of reputable polls and used a similar methodology.

They've also done troll questions.

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Just because it's a troll doesn't mean it wasn't scientific in methodology.

[Kidlicious]

Just because it's a troll doesn't mean it wasn't scientific in methodology.

They intended to get false positives. That's the troll.

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Which is why I said

Actually it was both.

DUH

[Kidlicious]

K. Intending to get false positives and not reporting that is not science.

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I didn't say it was science I said they used scientific methodology.
I'm sure they got exactly what they intended.
Where did they report that they weren't trying to fool people?
There was nothing wrong with their methodology.

[Kidlicious]

Looks like the list of the trolled includes....

1) The Guardian (shouldn't surprise anyone)
2) Huffington Post
3) Salon
4) MTV
5) Mother Jones
6) AlterNet
7) The Washington Times
8) Al Jazeera

That's a short list, I'm sure

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Yes, we've already agreed that it was a troll. What's your point? The survey was still collected using scientific methodology.

[Kidlicious]

I didn't say it was science I said they used scientific methodology.
I'm sure they got exactly what they intended.
Where did they report that they weren't trying to fool people?
There was nothing wrong with their methodology.

Is there any scientific value in a poll number that includes false positives?

http://www.snopes.com/2015/12/18/agrabah-aladdin-republican-poll/

http://time.com/4155228/amiercans-bomb-aladdin-agrabah/

From a tweet ...

Silly polls about Aladdin should be something to brighten your Friday, not get really mad about

[Kidlicious]

Yes, we've already agreed that it was a troll. What's your point? The survey was still collected using scientific methodology.

It's a bit disturbing that the media would get trolled like that isn't it?

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Is there any scientific value in a poll number that includes false positives?

One last time for those that aren't really paying attention.

I didn't say it was science I said they used scientific methodology.

I never said there was any scientific value in the survey. I said that their methodology was scientific.

[Kidlicious]

Ok. Well I'm sure they dressed nice as well.

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And for the record, I don't find this disturbing at all. News agencies have been proven to be just as stupid as the rest of us many times.
One should always be wary of anything they read, ESPECIALLY the internet is concerned.

[Kidlicious]

And for the record, I don't find this disturbing at all. News agencies have been proven to be just as stupid as the rest of us many times.
One should always be wary of anything they read, ESPECIALLY the internet is concerned.

???????? I would expect the media to at least set a standard for themselves, one that you don't.

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Expectations and reality seldom match. It would be nice if they always met their own standards but they're just fallible people like the rest of us.