Woman fired for reporting racist t-shirt

[Bereta_Eder]

So. It is obvious. Confirmed racists like ben kenobi thank posts that justify free speech as a vehicle for being racist.

So , it all falls into place.

[giblets]

He has the date his ban expires marked on a calendar.

[kentonio]

WAIT, He WASN'T pimping children and other locals. Unbelievable

Hard to say. His accomplice Aeson appears to have hidden the original threads.

[Imran Siddiqui]

That's not a slippery slope, thats a direct effect of allowing public racist speech. Which is why racial violence dropped dramatically when we banned it.

But has it really?

https://books.google.com/books?id=laqcAQAAQBAJ&pg=PA201&lpg=PA201&dq=RACIAL+INCIDENTS+REPORTED+TO+THE+POLICE+IN+ENGLAND+AND+WALES&source=bl&ots=HPlhpEy9x9&sig=4E4SahZlYrGsPD8nHmNv77cOroo&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CDgQ6AEwBGoVChMI5_vBxv3TxwIVQXM-Ch0QcA7s#v=onepage&q=RACIAL%20INCIDENTS%20REPORTED%20TO%20THE%20POLICE%20IN%20ENGLAND%20AND%20WALES&f=false

It appears racial incidents are kind of around the same level. Sometimes less, sometimes more since 1997 (since the passing of the Protection from Harassment Act) - but it is reporting to the police that is somewhat difficult to really ascertain how many in reality.

[Elok]

Humorously, I was just trying to find the original thread and the first thing I stumbled across was this reply to a Lancer post..

I remember that thread; I did not mean that as a barb at Lancer, as I explained there. Can't type more now b/c tickity-tick tends to wake sleeping children. More later.

[kentonio]

I remember that thread; I did not mean that as a barb at Lancer, as I explained there. Can't type more now b/c tickity-tick tends to wake sleeping children. More later.

I know, I read the rest of it. Was still funny as hell though.

[Elok]

Going back to what Imran said, how exactly do you establish that the hate-speech law caused a decline in violence? Even if there had been a decline in violence, how would you rule out various confounding variables, like changing economic conditions or attitude shifts in the population? Post hoc ergo propter hoc isn't much better than slippery slope, after all. Of course, I also can't prove that a similar law here would cause a chilling effect on free speech; the much-publicized pansification of the American campus is the closest approximation I can give.

Re: non-protected classes, how is the ability to change one's view relevant? Are you suggesting that they ought to change their views to avoid an otherwise-justified punishment by their neighbors? "Well, if they didn't want to get screamed at, they should have had politically acceptable opinions." Is that about the shape of it? What if the neighbors are dirtbags who hate the person for a perfectly reasonable opinion, or a controversial one expressed without rancor?

And if harassment in general would cover cases like I mentioned, why are protected-class-specific laws necessary?

[Aeson]

Hard to say. His accomplice Aeson appears to have hidden the original threads.

If you weren't such a moron you'd know those threads (at least the most entertaining ones) were actually moved to the old "deleted threads" forum which itself got deleted or hidden long before I had anything to do with running the site. Also you'd know Lancer was mainly attacking me in those threads and trying to break Net and I up.

[Aeson]

This whole forum is hate speech. Getting upset about hate speech being allowed is silly. Without allowing hate speech how are we supposed to shame those who spew hate speech to the point everyone thinks they are a joke?

[rah]

If you weren't such a moron you'd know those threads (at least the most entertaining ones) were actually moved to the old "deleted threads" forum which itself got deleted or hidden long before I had anything to do with running the site. Also you'd know Lancer was mainly attacking me in those threads and trying to break Net and I up.

That is pretty old history, so it is possible that he's not a moron, just ignorant.

[kentonio]

If you weren't such a moron you'd know those threads (at least the most entertaining ones) were actually moved to the old "deleted threads" forum which itself got deleted or hidden long before I had anything to do with running the site. Also you'd know Lancer was mainly attacking me in those threads and trying to break Net and I up.

A moron would be the person who in this troll-pit just foolishly showed it still bothers him.

[NICE MOBIUS]

It is interesting to note that, with BK banned; Kid and Reg Collider not posting, and me being nice, forum traffic has basically fallen off a cliff...

I'd say the majority of the remaining traffic is Sava broadsiding Elok with invective and MWHC's drunk threads, but neither is consistent enough to take up the slack, and the rest of you aren't nasty enough, or around enough.

Let's face it, poly thrives on hate and bigotry...

[Elok]

I've had very lengthy conversations with Ken and Paiktis before Sava et al interrupted. Don't blame us three.

A moron would be the person who in this troll-pit just foolishly showed it still bothers him.

Well, he owns the site, so if they really want to poke him over this, he won't have to put up with it for long.

[DaShi]

If you weren't such a moron you'd know those threads (at least the most entertaining ones) were actually moved to the old "deleted threads" forum which itself got deleted or hidden long before I had anything to do with running the site. Also you'd know Lancer was mainly attacking me in those threads and trying to break Net and I up.

That bastard!

[Aeson]

A moron would be the person who in this troll-pit just foolishly showed it still bothers him.

Again, you're just showing what a moron you are. I've already won that battle. I did so by consistently and doggedly pointing out the logical fallacies, lies, and personal failings of those who tried to attack the integrity of people I care for in real life. Every one of those threads I participated in ended up the same way, with *****es running away with their tails between their legs after realizing they had no shot to win and were only making themselves look like liars and bigots.

But sure, take up that banner if you like.