The US War on Blacks!

[Dauphin]

Bad drivers in Graz today it seems.

[Ben Kenobi]

I was going to post that myself. Apparently mass murder is a strictly American phenomenon.

[Ben Kenobi]

Makes you wonder how many of your other assumptions might turn out to be also untrue, doesn't it?

If guns = violence, why does Texas have less violence than Chicago?

[Dinner]

The people you would have to rely on to do this confiscation, local law enforcement, are generally avid to rabid gun rights advocates and the owners of a good many of them. The chances of having this be enforced in any effective way are zero. You could call out the army, but then then you have the same problem x100.

That is not true. Many police organizations are the most outspoken about how insane our permissive gun laws are and most police organizations back stricter controls.

[BlackCat]

If an ordinary police officer refuses to enforce a law, wouldn't that be a firing reason ? and if it was an elected officer, wouldn't that be considered a severely punishable crime ?

[DinoDoc]

That is not true. Many police organizations are the most outspoken about how insane our permissive gun laws are and most police organizations back stricter controls.

Colorado Sheriffs Refuse To Enforce New Gun Control Laws

[I AM MOBIUS]

You ARE right. But so is the NRA--it ISN'T possible. This is full-on Catch-22 madness, but that's the reality of the situation. We need to focus on things that are possible. I honestly haven't the faintest idea of what that could be.

Australia did it, why not the US...?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL8JEEt2RxI

[I AM MOBIUS]

wouldn't that be a firing reason ?

Interesting choice of words...

[BlackCat]

Interesting choice of words...

Yeah, I know, but I couldn't be bothered to find a more "neutral" word.

[regexcellent]

That is not true. Many police organizations are the most outspoken about how insane our permissive gun laws are and most police organizations back stricter controls.

No, this is only large city departments. At my gun club in Rochester a lot of the members are RPD officers and Monroe County deputies.

[I AM MOBIUS]

I should clarify that I meant specifically on Poly. These threads are always started by concern trolls like MOBIUS, who despite his protestations plainly cares about American lives slightly less than he cares about arachnids.

Let's see, I want to see weapons that allow regular massacres to happen, that include small children and people worshipping in places of worship, banned.

You support a tool that directly contributes to the deaths of ~30K of your fellow citizens each and every year...

Which of us cares more about American lives...!?

You don't even support universal healthcare for your fellow citizens, so stop trying to deflect your moral turpitude on others, you heartless freak.

[regexcellent]

Gun ownership is actually at record lows but the folks who do own guns are buying more than ever. Seriously, it isn't unusual for one gun nut to have a dozen different guns.

No, proportion of families with guns in the home is going up.

Here are some recent gun control polls courtesy Gallup.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/150353/Self-Reported-Gun-Ownership-Highest-1993.aspx?utm_source=guns%20in%20the%20home&utm_medium=search&utm_campaign=tiles

http://www.gallup.com/poll/179213/six-americans-say-guns-homes-safer.aspx?utm_source=guns%20in%20the%20home&utm_medium=search&utm_campaign=tiles

http://www.gallup.com/poll/179045/less-half-americans-support-stricter-gun-laws.aspx?utm_source=gun%20control&utm_medium=search&utm_campaign=tiles

Meanwhile crime has been plummeting.

[Sava]

This considering that Chicago has some of the most strict gun control laws in the country.

Don't be dishonest. You know very well local laws mean jack**** when they can go across the border to another state or even another city that doesn't have as strict controls.

[rah]

That last comment was more just an add-on and not my main point. I was showing that his numbers were probably low compared to today. Some of that is due to reporting also obviously.

But yes you're right, it does minimize the impact but I don't think it totally does. Those same laws help the police keep some of those gang bangers in jail once they're caught. I think that helps. But a better solution is necessary. We do need a national policy. I'm not holding my breath.

[Kidlicious]

If an ordinary police officer refuses to enforce a law, wouldn't that be a firing reason ? and if it was an elected officer, wouldn't that be considered a severely punishable crime ?

Cops aren't really paid well.