Which country would you rather live in?

[Thoth]

If you were both black and gay:

Russia or USA?

[MRT144]

It's like asking "would you prefer we raped your mother or shot your father". No win.

[Jon Miller]

(USA+Russia)/2

Otherwise known as Canada.

JM

[giblets]

Russia is probably more racist than the USA, and a lot more homophobic.

[giblets]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4737468.stm

Juldas Okie Etoumbi, a postgraduate international relations student at Moscow's RUDN university, remembers well his first encounter with a Russian.

Standing in a Moscow Metro carriage for the first time, the young Gabonese man was thrown forward when the train started with a jolt and he grabbed a pole to keep his balance, brushing the Russian man's hand.

Without a word, the Russian withdrew his hand, produced a handkerchief and proceeded to wipe it demonstratively in front of the other passengers.

Christian, a former electrical engineering student from Cameroon now working in Moscow, was recently assaulted by a group of about 10 teenagers on a Metro train in the city centre.

Struck by a bottle on the head, he fell in a pool of blood. The driver kept the carriage doors shut at the next station and police caught three of the gang, but Christian thinks no action was taken.

When Somali civil engineering student Mukhtar Ahmed Osman was beaten unconscious in the snow by a gang of teenagers in a Moscow suburb, nobody came to his aid.

While much of the violence seems to be purely racist, some believe Africans are also targeted as scapegoats for Russian society's ills and the media is often accused of fostering an image of African students as drug-dealers.

The attacks have turned murderous in recent years. In St Petersburg, three Africans have been killed in suspected race attacks since September.

Non-African foreign students have also been murdered, but it is the black students who attract most attention from the racists.

Juldas, now leader of the African students at RUDN, says "monkey" insults and actual assaults are so frequent that students have ceased reporting them.

"We see it as normal now because that's how we live."

[Ben Kenobi]

USA USA!

[Hauldren Collider]

It's like asking "would you prefer we raped your mother or shot your father". No win.

USA seems like a pretty big win, if you're actually being honest.

[regexcellent]

A gay black dude in San Francisco is not in any danger from anyone.

[Lorizael]

A gay black dude somewhere in the middle of Siberia is also probably not in any danger from anyone.

[Berzerker]

Russian motorists remind me of Mad Max movies

[Berzerker]

oh yeah, the colony of Bananastan

[Hauldren Collider]

A gay black dude somewhere in the middle of Siberia is also probably not in any danger from anyone.

Except exposure, particularly due to lack of basic services such as clean water, functioning police, hospitals, electricity....

[Berzerker]

yup, just saw a news blurb linking Vit D deficiency due to low sunlight with pancreatic cancer
living near the equator makes you ~1/6th less likely to get it

course if you got light skin your odds of skin cancer rise too

looks downright evolutionary

[Lorizael]

Except exposure, particularly due to lack of basic services such as clean water, functioning police, hospitals, electricity....

Exposure is not a person.

[regexcellent]

Yeah I suppose gay people are safe in the ****ing desert of Saudi Arabia too but let's restrict our notion of "living in" countries to living in places where people actually live in those countries. ****ty small rural bumpkin towns in Siberia are probably the last place I'd want to be as a gay black man.