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  • Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
    So you're not sure what part of the brain is responsible for conscious decisions, but you are absolutely sure that this part of the brain can always decide to do the right thing, regardless of other factors that may affect the brain, and that if this part of brain decides not to do the right thing, it's because this part of the brain (again, you're not sure which part, or how it works) is lazy. Got it.
    Yes. If lazy people exist, presumably their brains are somehow different from the brains of people who aren't lazy.

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    • Originally posted by Pedotard View Post
      Yes. If lazy people exist, presumably their brains are somehow different from the brains of people who aren't lazy.
      But what laziness means is the capacity to choose otherwise but the unwillingness to do. How does one measure the unwillingness of a part of the brain to perform a particular action, and in what sense is unwillingness observationally different from inability?
      Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
      "We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La Rochefoucauld

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      • Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
        But what laziness means is the capacity to choose otherwise but the unwillingness to do. How does one measure the unwillingness of a part of the brain to perform a particular action, and in what sense is unwillingness observationally different from inability?
        Unwillingness depends on environment. If cigarette taxes make some people quit smoking, then smokers were able to quit before, they just weren't willing.

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        • Originally posted by Pedotard View Post
          Unwillingness depends on environment. If cigarette taxes make some people quit smoking, then smokers were able to quit before, they just weren't willing.
          That's nonsensical. That's saying, "If an even could occur with a particular stimulus, then that event could have occurred beforehand without that stimulus."
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          • Originally posted by Pedotard View Post
            Yes. If lazy people exist, presumably their brains are somehow different from the brains of people who aren't lazy.
            At some point, you need to get over yourself. Though, forgive me if I have a mistaken impression of your attitudes towards weight loss/fat people. Effective strategies are suited to each individual. If someone is chugging a two liter bottle of Pepsi per day, simply saying "Don't do that" is not effective. People aren't stupid. They know what the problem is. They are often times hopeless to make such changes. Consumption of calories in that manner is addictive... both biologically (supported by science, but I won't bother to post support since you'll ignore it as always or dismiss what you don't like, so fuck you) and behaviorally.

            Slowly reducing intake over time and replacing it with fruit is a good strategy. Biologically, their systems will get the sugar. Over time, they will adjust to the lower insulin spikes that eating fruit provokes versus highly refined sugars in soda. Yes, the fiber matters. The sugars in soda are rapidly absorbed by the body causing high insulin spikes. Insulin makes you store calories as fat. Therefore, foods that generate those spikes MAKE YOU FAT. The sugars in fruits are absorbed more slowly. They don't cause insulin spikes to the same degree. It is spread out over time. Your body even expels some of that sugar because it cannot break down the fiber and absorb it all. In that regard, even measuring the sugars in fruit is misleading. You don't absorb 100% of the sugars in fruit. So yes, calories in calories out applies. But unless we're going to do a fecal analysis, we cannot effectively measure what the body is actually taking in.

            Again, I'd provide support. But you seem immune to it. So I'm going to not waste my time. You'll just have to take my word for it because I'm much smarter than you, have extensive expertise on this subject, and am generally more awesome.

            Effective motivation is self-driven. "Shaming" doesn't work.



            This is less obvious, so I'll post the research for that.

            If you want to continue to be an unhelpful jackass, nitpicking, splitting hairs, taking things out of context, ignoring evidence, and being purposefully dishonest, I can't help that. You have your reasons.

            I'm done with talking to you on this subject. I've provided enough resources for those who wish to learn more about this subject.

            You're an unhelpful twatburger. Go fuck yourself.
            To us, it is the BEAST.

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            • Sava, the link you posted appears to say pretty much the opposite of what you said in your post.
              Conclusions

              This research found that, in participants with high levels of baseline controlled motivation for weight loss, an intervention designed to enhance motivation for weight loss produced significantly greater weight loss than a standard behavioral weight loss intervention.
              So encouraging people to lose weight can make a difference.

              Also, if you think adults need to be told to eat fruit instead of drinking soda, you do think people are stupid.

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              • Fuck you, you illiterate liar.

                higher levels of autonomous motivation improve the likelihood of behavior modification.
                the "intervention" is SELF DIRECTED MOTIVATION

                stupid fucking idiot
                To us, it is the BEAST.

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                • I'm seriously done with you. You contribute nothing. You have no redeeming qualities.
                  To us, it is the BEAST.

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                  • You're a lying piece of shit... I hate liars.
                    To us, it is the BEAST.

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                    • Originally posted by Sava View Post
                      Fuck you, you illiterate liar.



                      the "intervention" is SELF DIRECTED MOTIVATION

                      stupid fucking idiot
                      So you're saying it should be read as "SELF DIRECTED MOTIVATION designed to enhance motivation for weight loss produced significantly greater weight loss than a standard behavioral weight loss intervention." That doesn't really make sense.

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                      • Whatever lying shithead. Learn what words mean.

                        That doesn't really make sense.
                        I can't be held responsible for your inability to understand the material. Go take some classes at your local community college.


                        The only point I will concede is that calling you an "illiterate liar" is a bit of a contradiction. If you are in fact suffering from a severe reading comprehension problem, it is possible you aren't lying. If you do understand the material and are just ****ing around, you are a liar.

                        I wanted to cover all the bases.

                        Congratulations, you managed to serve as an adequate substitute for BK. And like him, I hope you die in a fire.

                        Eat shit. Go skullfuck your mother. Impregnate her head with your bastard spawn of satan. Then fuck her in the ass until she spits that abomination out... the flames will serve as the ignition source. You will hopefully all suffer and die painful deaths. Also, be sure to blow your father while this is occurring. Make sure he eats a lot of asparagus so that his cum tastes horrible. The goal should be to have him cum in your mouth just as your skin is melting off.
                        To us, it is the BEAST.

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                        • ^^^^ I outdid myself with this last one.
                          To us, it is the BEAST.

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                          • Nah, I think I'll enjoy the rest of my day and continue to choose not to be fat.

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                            • awesome

                              try arsenic, i hear it's great for keeping those pounds off

                              goat-fucking ****ball
                              To us, it is the BEAST.

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                              • Do you have a fetish for fat women or something?

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