what happened to the großrossiya thread

[Bereta_Eder]

Paktis:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-01/greek-savers-still-wary-of-tsipras-after-2015-financial-tumult

Greek savers are pulling their money out of banks again fearful the government might not do the promised pension reforms which are required to get the next slice of bailout funds. That could cause the delayed crisis to resume all because the Greek government never does what it says it will do. Seriously, this is what is killing your economy as you would have grown in 2015 if the new government hadn't played chicken causing the economy to go back into recession and now they might ruin 2016 by doing the same thing. Be grown ups and do the responsible thing.

If the EU wants to survive, pensions will not be cut.
They don't want to perish, so they will not be cut.

[Bereta_Eder]

BTW that guy is talking out of his ass. Again.

[Bereta_Eder]

Also if you want to see lies, look at the president of the EC.
He said under the memorandum, pensions would not be cut.
Now they are "asking" to be cut.


One has to be an adult and live up to his word.

He can't be a lier. It's no good. Where's the trust? Without trust we can't go anywhere.

[Bereta_Eder]

I think your own diplomat perfectly explains the reason why all countries in the world think exactly the same as me:

http://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/...s/201512290018

That's not 100% correct.
The world is divided into two fragments.

Those that think that the US is dumb killers and those that think it is intelligent killers.

[Bereta_Eder]

There are no cuts in the level of pensions in this package

http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_SPEECH-15-5274_en.htm

[Dinner]

If the EU wants to survive, pensions will not be cut.
They don't want to perish, so they will not be cut.

Greece can't pay for then and the EU said they will not pay for them so it is cut them or get kicked out of the Euro zone.

It is time for you guys to put your big boy pants on and actually do what you promised to do. We all know what will happen if you guys do not and, no, it will not be the rest of the EU which suffers because lying Greeks don't ever actually do what they say they will do.

[Bereta_Eder]

You just lost your "moral" highground (you never had it to begin with) and you don't even notice it.
Sad.

As a side note, big boys don't shoot eachother on the streets like dogs and have healthcare.

Also the world loves them because they are cutie bunnies

[Bereta_Eder]

We all know what will happen if you guys do not

Get lent another 90 billion euros?

[Bereta_Eder]

Also the article was written by a clueless enthusiast of neoliberalism.
His limited worldview is entertaining and can even come in handy for some minor technical adjustements but he can't see past his own nose.

Also his way of presenting facts leaves a lot to be desired.

His POV got sledgehammered in the previous elections and in the previous elections before that and in the referendum.

It's not Tsipras the people are not trusting. It's the whole system and good thing they don't re-deposit savings since they are maximum protected against what maybe will be a tough battle.
(although my opinion is that the EU will fold like a chinese piece of paper, again)

[Bereta_Eder]

Meanwhile in a desperate attempt to put some sense to you, the primary threat the EU is facing is not financial anymore but the rise of populist governments in lots of countries.

Such as Poland (scolded for severely limiting press freedom, hungary for racially discriminatory laws etc etc etc).

Of course, the rise of these govs are the result of the nefarious economic policies followed by the EU (and the inability of german so called "leadership" to conveince anyone, as well as the general backwardness of parts of eastern europe. Also the deepening vs enlargement theorem)

TLDR;

pensions will not be cut.

(but there will be a minor tax on bank transactions, around 0,6%)

[dannubis]

Summary: Greek democracy is worth more than German democracy.

[Bereta_Eder]

duh

[dannubis]

In your pants maybe...

[Bereta_Eder]

Fancy pants

[Bereta_Eder]

Democracy is already far out and gone in the EU.

Now it's just a curious experiment, sort of like watching a slow motion train wreck, it could be averted though if Dinner, like superman, comes down and with his diplomatic expertise and outstanding knowledge picks up the train in the air while millions of adoring fans shout from below.

But it's unlikely