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  • Originally posted by Dinner View Post
    https://burkonews.info/russian-t-90-...uhansk-region/

    Doc, Russia has been using equipment which is a generation newer including T-90 tanks. The Ukrainians have said their two biggest needs are drones and anti-tank missiles. They say Russia has made extensive use of drones so they have real time info of what the battlefield looks like while Ukrainians don't have that so they would like the Americans to give them that ability.
    We don't have enough drones either.
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    • We would give the Ukrainians more info if they weren't thoroughly infiltrated by the Russians.
      If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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      • Onodera, the Ukrainians have none while Putin has spent a lot of money modernizing his forces. Meanwhile, the Ukraine pretty much has stagnated as politicians and oligarchs stole everything not nailed down. That remains the big reason for the people rising up against their government and demanding better. The current government has actually started cracking down on corruption and has even allowed outside audits to help ferret out more corruption. It remains to be seen how dedicated they are at this task but if sustained it would be great news.
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        • Originally posted by Dinner View Post
          Onodera, the Ukrainians have none while Putin has spent a lot of money modernizing his forces. Meanwhile, the Ukraine pretty much has stagnated as politicians and oligarchs stole everything not nailed down. That remains the big reason for the people rising up against their government and demanding better. The current government has actually started cracking down on corruption and has even allowed outside audits to help ferret out more corruption. It remains to be seen how dedicated they are at this task but if sustained it would be great news.
          Is a stereotype a stereotype if it's 100% correct?

          What I want to say is you're wrong again.
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          • Ol, we will tale it point by point. Are you denying that Putin has spent big money since 2000 modernizing his forces, that the Ukraine was corrupt, or that the current government has had a major anti-corruption drive even having ministers arrested live on TV? Please tell me which one you are referring to.
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            • Originally posted by Dinner View Post
              Most of their equipMent is 30 years b old while their b ullets and shells were made in WW2. Give them the new stuff and watch Russian loses quadruple. Give the anti-craft misses to shoot down Russian drowns and anti-tank missiles to kill Russian tabks. Suddenly it will be a new ear and Putin won't be so eager to fight it.
              WW2 era Ukraine arms manufacturers were definitely ahead of their time making all that 7.62

              /facepalm
              To us, it is the BEAST.

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              • I am basing that one a BBC news clip which had Ukrainian soldiers saying the ammo they have says it was made during WW2. A quick search of wiki says the Soviets produced huge amounts of it in WW2 so their claim sounds believable to me.
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                • I am basing that on a BBC news clip which had Ukrainian soldiers saying the ammo they have says it was made during WW2. A quick search of wiki says the Soviets produced huge amounts of it in WW2 so their claim sounds believable to me.

                  Supposedly even the Russian Tsarist Empire started using it in 1891 with the Nagant rifle which the Soviets continued using all through WW2.
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                  • Hey Oerdin, last time the US armed some guys, they fell into the hands of the other side...

                    Or this: NOT AGAIN: American Weapons ‘Fall into the Wrong Hands’, This Time In Yemen

                    How about the advanced anti-mortar systems the US supplied to Ukraine? "Thank you Americans, send more"
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                    • Dinner: striving to make the whole world like Iraq (and sometimes failing)

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                      • About 300 US paratroopers arrive in western Ukraine to train with Ukrainian forces - a move condemned by Russia.


                        Well, at least Obama is finally beginning to help them with training and tactics.
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                        • R.I.P.

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                          • why is it that nearly all videos that explain coherently and in 5 minutes the real character of what people like dinner seek are in french?
                            :/
                            Un résumé grotesque de l'histoire des États-Unis ou la mauvaise foi et l'exagération sont de mise, puissiez vous différencier…

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                            • Vlad on the phone with his people for four hours straight.

                              Relations with west: Putin said the west must respect Russia’s interests if it wants to normalise diplomatic relations. He said the US “doesn’t need allies, they only need vassals” and that Russia would never accept that role.
                              Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
                              GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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