what happened to the großrossiya thread

[Bereta_Eder]

Well ok, things are not that black and white.
You sound like dinner

[Ellestar]

Well ok, things are not that black and white.
You sound like dinner

I'm just having fun. Besides, it's not a lie. It's the difference between ideology of land empires (Russia) vs. maritime empires (West). Russia tries to improve all OUR new TERRITORIES, while the West tries to exploit their new FOREIGN COLONIES. That's why that scenario happens again and again, everywhere. You can see the same scenario even within European Union itself.

[rah]

I do love how everything not Russia is the West. Why don't you just say The rest of the world.
At least then some of the stuff you say would be true.

The US did not start WWII. Russia had more to do with the start of it then the US did.

[Ellestar]

I do love how everything not Russia is the West. Why don't you just say The rest of the world.
At least then some of the stuff you say would be true.

The US did not start WWII. Russia had more to do with the start of it then the US did.

Because West is not the rest of the world? Well, i guess it's a Russian term. Which one do you prefer then? Western Bloc? NATO countries?

[kentonio]

Just as WW2 was started by the West, new crisis is started by the West too.

It's actually painful how dumb you sound sometimes.

And the same story goes on everywhere. Russia brings peace and prosperity, while the West brings war and destruction.

Good old Russia, bringing peace and prosperity like when they signed a deal with Nazi Germany enabling them to illegally seize eastern Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and parts of Romania, while simultaneously allowing Germany to focus its military forces in the west. Oh and let's not forget the peace and prosperity brought about by the illegal occupation of Eastern Europe for half a decade after the war, the millions of forced relocations, the torture, the gulags, the mass executions.

You think we've forgotten?

[rah]

NATO countries is probably best but doesn't eliminate the problem.
NATO countries are not one big entity. The rarely agree on anything and they have their own interests at heart which usually conflict with others.
By talking about them as one huge entity, you just show your ignorance.

[Dinner]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-fears-big-war-as-russia-sends-in-more-troops-10457571.html

Russia has amassed 9000 troops in the Ukraine and 41,000 on the border. Brand new T-90a tanks, only produced in Russia and used by the Russian Army have been filmed in the Ukraine. There have been over 175 cease fire violations documented, the vast majority by Russian forces, and their are daily missile and heavy artillery attacks on Ukrainian civilian areas.

It is well past the time when we should be arming Ukrainian forces so they can defend themselves against Russian aggression.

[PLATO]

I think we should make a big public show of arming the Ukrainians through "humanitarian" convoys...and then deny it was arming them. Russia wants equal footing, right?

[pchang]

Perhaps we should give Ukraine its nukes back. Only fair since we didn't hold up our end of the bargain.

[kentonio]

I think we should make a big public show of arming the Ukrainians through "humanitarian" convoys...and then deny it was arming them. Russia wants equal footing, right?

Seems fair. It should also include numerous divisions of US combat troops, artillery and tanks, with the US markings crossed out in pen, and 'Volunteer' written underneath in crayon.

[rah]

I'm waiting for the 'but we will rain nukes down on you" response.

[Dinner]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33972122

Former paid internet troll employed by the Russian government wins lawsuit. Sadly, the government court only awards her a symbolic $0.01 in damages.

[Bereta_Eder]

Jesus. I hope russia quickly absorbs ukraine so this thread will stop

[PLATO]

I wish Russia would come to their senses so this thread will stop.

[Dinner]

Unfortunately, it appears Putin is massing forces for yet another attack.