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  • Originally posted by giblets View Post
    Do you have a source for that?
    Ellestar will probably be along shortly with all the details, if he feels like it.
    You'll judge then.

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    • Originally posted by Bereta_Eder View Post
      What Proteus described was happening in eastern Germany , exactly the same and with bigger brutality was happening in Europe under the holy aspices of the US.


      So we don't give a **** about gulags.
      Although, I have to say, we're lucky

      Were we the baltics, we'd associate freedom with nazism, and that would just suck

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      • Originally posted by Bereta_Eder View Post
        What Proteus described was happening in eastern Germany , exactly the same and with bigger brutality was happening in Europe under the holy aspices of the US.


        So we don't give a **** about gulags.
        Which western european countries were shooting people who tried to leave?

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        • Italy France Spain Ireland Greece Portugal and a handful of others were not too keen for people wanting social justice.

          So they locked them up, exciled them, and in bad cases tortured them. Under the aspices of that deranged ****ed up mongol called US. (formely known as UK)

          Untill we ****ed them up brilliantly that is.

          They did not shoot them if they wanted to leave though. They propably though that would erase their suffering. But we didn't. We stayed and took over.
          And again now.

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          • Two word joke:
            marshall plan.

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            • Originally posted by Bereta_Eder View Post
              Italy France Spain Ireland Greece Portugal and a handful of others were not too keen for people wanting social justice.

              So they locked them up, exciled them, and in bad cases tortured them. Under the aspices of that deranged ****ed up mongol called US. (formely known as UK)

              Untill we ****ed them up brilliantly that is.

              They did not shoot them if they wanted to leave though. They propably though that would erase their suffering. But we didn't. We stayed and took over.
              And again now.
              How long did it take for Italy France Spain Ireland Greece and Portugal to become democracies? How long did it take eastern bloc countries living under the threat of Soviet tanks to become democracies?

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              • Does it really matter?

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                • Originally posted by Bereta_Eder View Post
                  Does it really matter?
                  Yes? If the US had let Soviet-backed Communists overthrow their governments they would have been even worse off.

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                  • No, it doesn't matter.

                    Oppression was oppression and it is apparent that the US (and formerly UK) was a nazi b!tch dictator supporter.

                    We don't give a ****.

                    Hell we don't agree with US model as it CURRENTLY stands (and the whole of europe doesn't either at that)

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                    • Although I have to say that the last generation toppled the ****ed up US/UK backed dictatorship and that's good.

                      But then, it became one with power.
                      that's why they are pushed into the dustbin of history and we took over.

                      The new mission is to navigate through a shattered EU, surrendered to its own absurdities.

                      It's actually easier than it sounds

                      (hopefully we'll be over too, by a younger, better generation, when our mission is complete)
                      Last edited by Bereta_Eder; October 30, 2015, 18:01.

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                      • Originally posted by Bereta_Eder View Post
                        Although, I have to say, we're lucky

                        Were we the baltics, we'd associate freedom with nazism, and that would just suck
                        The citizens of the Third Reich associated freedom with nazism for sure (isn't it fun to kill those untermenshes, right?). Balts weren't different, they were just their lackeys. But, the modern Germans have learned the sad lesson, while the modern Balts and Western Ukrainians have not.
                        Some idiots just never learn. Ничего, научим снова.

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                        • eastern Europeans are called jenissars of neoliberalism and for good reason.

                          Hell Latvia's PM managed to actually ban free education and now universities are not free. They have to pay a loan as in the US.

                          Such barbarity is thankfully confined to them.
                          And it will remain so.

                          Also, in Latvia, if a public school has no money of its own, it shuts down.


                          **** them, but forgive them, for they do not know any better.

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                          • There are two theories.

                            One, that the beast of capitalism cannot be tamed without a huge opposing force (I subscibe to it)
                            The other that it can

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                            • And that's exactly why Russia is so important (besides my friendship with serb)

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                              • US has nothing to do with democracy.
                                It topples govs, puts puppets in, kills millions.
                                It is a rogue state.

                                An alarming percentage of europe's elite agrees. That's why the EU is crumbling, ain't it?

                                But again a huge percentage thinks differently.

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