Congratulations Anti-vaxers. Measles spreading in California

[Lorizael]

Should we mandate harming children for the greater good?

Our choices are: (a) harm a small number of children for the greater good or (b) harm a large number of children for no benefit. I admit, that's a toughie.

[DaShi]

It is a parent's choice, that doesn't make him anti-vax. He went on to say his children received multiple vaccinations staggered over time.

Who said he was anti-vax?

[Berzerker]

1. Your imagination is just that.

2. Anti-biotics are progress. They have and continue to save millions of lives. However, misuse of them (blame unregulated industry as a major culprit) has been creating superbugs.

The misuse may expedite the process but we could be "evolving" ourselves into extinction by engaging in an arms race with nature

[DaShi]

The misuse may expedite the process but we could be "evolving" ourselves into extinction by engaging in an arms race with nature

Nothing you are saying here makes sense. I suggest you do some research and then return to the discussion.

[pchang]

Vaccination is completely different from antibiotics.

[Berzerker]

Our choices are: (a) harm a small number of children for the greater good or (b) harm a large number of children for no benefit. I admit, that's a toughie.

We and bugs evolved together, medicine produces people who would have died off because of bugs and bugs that are tougher to defeat.

Who said he was anti-vax?

MSNBC, Howard Dean...and you accused Repubs of being anti-vax in this thread

Nothing you are saying here makes sense. I suggest you do some research and then return to the discussion.

You understand that anti-biotics can create superbugs but vaccines have no consequences?

[Berzerker]

Vaccination is completely different from antibiotics.

and therefore not subject to evolution's arms race?

[DaShi]

MSNBC, Howard Dean...and you accused Repubs of being anti-vax in this thread

You brought up Howard Dean. No one else has even mentioned him. As for republicans being anti-vax: 1. I was making fun of their strict anti-Obama stances; 2. Rand Paul follows his own beliefs and is barely considered a republican by his own party. I never brought up Rand Paul until you did for some reason.

You understand that anti-biotics can create superbugs but vaccines have no consequences?

Where are you getting this from?

Since you seem to believe that vaccines have terrible consequences, does it bother you that you also believe that Rand Paul endorses them? Do you support politicians who want to harm children?

[DaShi]

Serious question because I rarely notice Berz's existence: Is he actually retarded or is this just an act?

[Sava]

Berz, you aren't making much sense.

[Berzerker]

You brought up Howard Dean. No one else has even mentioned him. As for republicans being anti-vax: 1. I was making fun of their strict anti-Obama stances; 2. Rand Paul follows his own beliefs and is barely considered a republican by his own party. I never brought up Rand Paul until you did for some reason.

Yeah, I brought him up, so what? The media is painting him as anti-vax and they're full of BS. I didn't say you or anyone else mentioned Dean. You asked a question and I answered it. I dont care why you said Repubs are anti-vax, you did. And you followed that with an article quoting Obama's concern about autism and vaccinations while suggesting more research was needed.

Since you seem to believe that vaccines have terrible consequences, does it bother you that you also believe that Rand Paul endorses them? Do you support politicians who want to harm children?

I didn't say vaccinations have terrible consequences (other than the people harmed by them), I said even if I considered them progress I couldn't prove they're an overall good and I explained why.

[Sava]

I couldn't prove they're an overall good and I explained why.

That's okay. People much more qualified than you to speak on the subject already have.

[Sava]

I have heard of many tragic cases of walking, talking normal children who wound up with profound mental disorders after vaccines

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/rand-paul-vaccines-can-lead-mental-disorders-n298821

It's happening. It's coming true. Republicans are starting to embrace the anti-vax narrative.

[Lorizael]

We and bugs evolved together, medicine produces people who would have died off because of bugs and bugs that are tougher to defeat.

Yes, it's such a goddamn shame that our terrible horrible medicine prevents unfit people from being killed off by the beautiful delicate balance of nature.

[Berzerker]

That's okay. People much more qualified than you to speak on the subject already have.

Where'd they say vaccinations wont lead to weaker immune systems or stronger bugs?

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elec...orders-n298821

It's happening. It's coming true. Republicans are starting to embrace the anti-vax narrative.

See Dashi?