Help me understand human nature

[Bereta_Eder]

More like people who received love are more likely to give it

[N35t0r]

People who say "divorce won't hurt my kids," hurt their kids.

People who should divorce and don't also hurt their kids.

[Dr Strangelove]

SPF = Sun Protection Factor.

[Kidlicious]

More like people who received love are more likely to give it

Idk why you respond with that. I'm just saying people who get married and raise good children do good.

[Kidlicious]

People who should divorce and don't also hurt their kids.

Any evidence for this claim?

Consider this, divorce is rarely an improvement for children (except if they are abused of course). I divorced. I didn't expect it to be an improvement for my child. I did so for myself and with good reason.

[N35t0r]

Any evidence for this claim?

Consider this, divorce is rarely an improvement for children (except if they are abused of course). I divorced. I didn't expect it to be an improvement for my child. I did so for myself and with good reason.

Parents that fight all the time is a corrosive environment for kids to grow up in. Sometimes, divorce/separation improves the relationship between the former spouses, which is better for the kids (of course, not always). In any case, constantly being witnesses (at best) or 'hostages' (at worst) of their parents' fights is terrible for children's emotional wellbeing.

[Kidlicious]

Parents that fight all the time is a corrosive environment for kids to grow up in. Sometimes, divorce/separation improves the relationship between the former spouses, which is better for the kids (of course, not always). In any case, constantly being witnesses (at best) or 'hostages' (at worst) of their parents' fights is terrible for children's emotional wellbeing.

Yeah, I hear that. That is kind of abuse. They need to think of their children in that case. Admitedly I have some fault there. It's hard when you are married to an addict or someone like that.

[molly bloom]

Well whaddya know? I wasn't aware of that.

How about Christopher Nolan's body of work?

You mean one of the Batman films ? Ahem. 'Batman' is a character featured in various comics by D.C. . 'The Prestige' is from a novel by Christopher Priest.

How'm I doing so far ?

[molly bloom]

Capitalism works for all.

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You are on some serious mind-altering chemicals, old fruity.

[molly bloom]

No sir. My system favors the rule of law, reason and justice.

Could you tell these two African American men that ?

Thirty years ago, two men were wrongly convicted of the rape and murder of an 11-year old girl in rural Lumberton, North Carolina. Finally, they are free.

Tuesday, a judge ordered the release of half-brothers Henry Lee McCollum, 50, and Leon Brown, 46. The case against the men, always weak, fell apart after DNA evidence implicated another man who lived a block from the location where the victim’s body was found.

http://politicalblindspot.com/free-at-last-30-years-later-wrongful-conviction-overturned-in-murder-case/

Guilty of being poor and black and uneducated in a 'democratic' society.

[Kidlicious]

[Bereta_Eder]

Idk why you respond with that. I'm just saying people who get married and raise good children do good.

And so do people who divorce, don't get married or dance the macarena.
What I was saying is that getting married or not getting divorced has nothing to do with raising good children.

[Elok]

i don't agree that social mores are likely to roll back in the other direction. the factors that have contributed to the present situation are not going into reverse. i suspect that in the long term the solutions are likely to be collective, but non-family ones. we already see this to an extent with state crèches and similar measures, combined with financial support, are likely to employed for the foreseeable future.

I assume "state creches" means something like day-care centers--that's what Wiki linked me to. That, like financial support, is a stopgap measure and should not be considered long-term stable. No day-care, orphanage, etc. can provide the same advantages as a healthy two-parent home; if nothing else, simple arithmetic dictates that the caregiver to child ratio must be much lower. Also the caregivers do not have a parental relationship, nor do they have the same incentive to take good care of the kids--which is not to say that they're negligent (they may be quite idealistic and loving), but I imagine they have something not unlike the teacher-student relationships I observe as a sub: at the end of the day, there are some things the adult is powerless to change in a child's life, and this, combined with the weight of bureaucracy, the high number of kids to care for, and the adult's own personal problems, will induce a rapid burnout.

If we're looking at a future where the number of children involved in such institutions is double or triple what it is now, you're looking at a crushing financial burden as well, at a time period when governments on either side of the Atlantic are feeling parsimonious. There are also class issues to consider. There will continue to be some people who adhere to old-fashioned bourgeois values, and pass them on to their children, and it is on these people that most of the burden of payment for these institutions will fall. I'm not saying the poor are worthless layabouts or what-have-you, but it's not hard to see why the upper classes might get mad; they're being made to pay for somebody else's self-destructive lifestyle. For political purposes, the voices of the upper class are the only ones that really matter until such time as the lower classes start throwing Molotovs. And if you present the upper classes (and whatever remains of the middle) with the idea that they should pay for childcare for an infinitely expanding series of fatherless children, they will frown and politely decline, and their vote will carry. There's your rollback right there. It's all fun and games until the well-to-do have to pay to clean it up.

I suppose there's another option: greatly expanded use of abortion. But that would only turn a poverty problem into a population collapse. At which point I suppose we get a bunch of immigrants from whatever countries still believe in "family values," and hope they don't pick up our bad habits too quickly.

[Dauphin]

Plot driven films not adapted from a novel/short story or historical account ? A list of your faves, please.

Good Will Hunting?

[Kidlicious]

And so do people who divorce, don't get married or dance the macarena.
What I was saying is that getting married or not getting divorced has nothing to do with raising good children.

That's just not right.