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  • Originally posted by N35t0r View Post
    You treat the rest of the world as if it was supposed to be subservient to your interests
    Yes. Exactly.

    And what sort of person does this???? drumrollllllll

    Spoiler:
    a fascist
    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    • or a communist

      or an imperialist

      or...
      "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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      • not the pianist though. you can't shoot him.
        "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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        • adrian brody
          To us, it is the BEAST.

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          • Originally posted by Sava View Post
            I would agree with this.

            At minimum, private entities would need be compatible with the national interest.
            Come to think of it while this definition fits Hitler's Germany, Mussolini's Italy and Hirohito's Japan it doesn't fit so well for Franco's Spain or the average Latin American military junta which generally didn't interfere with the private economy.
            "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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            • Originally posted by Dr Strangelove View Post
              Come to think of it while this definition fits Hitler's Germany, Mussolini's Italy and Hirohito's Japan it doesn't fit so well for Franco's Spain or the average Latin American military junta which generally didn't interfere with the private economy.
              Yup. Sadly "fascist" gets thrown around so much that the actual meaning of the term becomes almost irrelevant. Even supposedly educated folks don't seem to have a firm grasp of the concept.
              To us, it is the BEAST.

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              • Originally posted by Dr Strangelove View Post
                Come to think of it while this definition fits Hitler's Germany, Mussolini's Italy and Hirohito's Japan it doesn't fit so well for Franco's Spain or the average Latin American military junta which generally didn't interfere with the private economy.
                Well, do take into account that the first three were involved in a major military conflict, and that generally the state tends to interfere much more in the economy during those.

                Also, economic policy was one of the major issues behind the military juntas, at least over here (and I know that in Chile as well).
                Indifference is Bliss

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                • Hitler, Mussolini and Hirohito took control of the economies of their countries long before the wars started. Of course much of the point of the control was to prepare for the anticipated war. Japan's GDP was approximately the same as Belgium's, a nation with about 1/10th the population, but they were able to field a million man army and a Navy to rival the US.

                  The economic policy of the juntas was usually to take apart whatever nationalization their predecessors had managed. The Perons were an exception.
                  "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                  • I've always wanted my own junta.
                    To us, it is the BEAST.

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                    • Originally posted by Dr Strangelove View Post
                      Hitler, Mussolini and Hirohito took control of the economies of their countries long before the wars started. Of course much of the point of the control was to prepare for the anticipated war. Japan's GDP was approximately the same as Belgium's, a nation with about 1/10th the population, but they were able to field a million man army and a Navy to rival the US.

                      The economic policy of the juntas was usually to take apart whatever nationalization their predecessors had managed. The Perons were an exception.
                      The juntas (at least over here) were very neoliberal economically, but they still took a very hands-on approach to managing the economy. Martínez de Hoz, the first economic minister under the last dictatorship, for example, froze wages and instituted a planned devaluation scheme.
                      Last edited by N35t0r; January 30, 2015, 10:44.
                      Indifference is Bliss

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                      • Robert Gates: Destroying ISIL 'unrealistic' and 'unattainable'



                        By Trevor Eischen

                        2/1/15 12:09 PM EST

                        President Barack Obama’s goal to destroy the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant is “unrealistic“ and “unattainable,” former Defense Secretary Robert Gates says.

                        Appearing on NBC’s “Meet the Press” Sunday, the former Pentagon chief under both Obama and President George W. Bush said U.S. forces should should not focus entirely on eradicating the terrorist group but should create an operation that contains the spread of ISIL militants and “denies them the ability to hang onto territory.”

                        “The president has set an ambitious and, I think under current circumstances, an unrealistic goal when he talks about our intent being to destroy ISIS,” Gates said. “With the means he has approved so far, I think that’s an unattainable objective.”

                        And, he said, special forces will be needed in Iraq and Syria to assist with the airstrikes that are being conducted by the U.S. and its allies.

                        A “re-invasion of Iraq with large ground forces is a false set of options,” Gates said, but “a few hundred troops” should be stationed in the region.
                        To us, it is the BEAST.

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                        • Originally posted by N35t0r View Post
                          The juntas (at least over here) were very neoliberal economically, but they still took a very hands-on approach to managing the economy. Martínez de Hoz, the first economic minister under the last dictatorship, for example, froze wages and instituted a planned devaluation scheme.
                          That's not free market economics.
                          If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                          • no.
                            Indifference is Bliss

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                            • Originally posted by N35t0r View Post
                              The juntas (at least over here) were very neoliberal economically, but they still took a very hands-on approach to managing the economy. Martínez de Hoz, the first economic minister under the last dictatorship, for example, froze wages and instituted a planned devaluation scheme.
                              Which country is this?
                              "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                              • Argentina
                                “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

                                ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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