Michael Brown - the 'kid' shot by cops 4 days ago in the US, who might have been unarmed and maybe was not fighting the cops.

[Felch]

If a cop gives reasonable orders to a crowd to disperse and they do not? Why didn't she get out of the way?

Because the highest law in the land says that cops can't order a peaceful assembly to disperse.

[Donegeal]

Seriously. The police should have only been on scene in a hands off capacity in case the situation escalated. The time to have been out in force was the 12th in order to tamp down on the looting and violence that happened then. This show of force against peaceful protest was needlessly inflammatory to citizenry and is counterproductive to both public order and a positive relationship with the community.

Jesus christ, you should be a politician. You make this wonderful little statement that makes this problem sound so simple that an infant could have taken care of this. However, you are not taking into consideration what that simple little statement means.

In what manner do you mean, 'the police should have only been on scene in a hands off capacity in case the situation escalated'? Do you mean they should have instantly had hundreds of officers in uniform just standing idly by waiting for the situation to escalate?

By your next statement, it sounds to me like you do actually want the police to have hundreds of officers on the ground instantly. In order to do this, you'd have to have all these officers on standby. And since you never know when a riot is going to take place, this would have to be an almost constant state or preparation. I fear the police state you are recommending by this statement, and I'm a cop!

The show of force was to prevent further rioting and looting (and it did a great job of that, yet no one seems to care that the rioting was so quickly stopped). Part of preventing rioting and looting is to place a curfew on the area. If you are inside that area, the curfew applies to you. Standing around, en mass for this particular situation, is then violating the law. The police could have detained and issued citations for violating that curfew to each and every one of the protesters. They didn't. Instead they gave fair warnings to the people assembled and they refused to obey. They chose to continue to violate the curfew and then get all puffy that the police did exactly what they told them would happen. Looks to me like a collective Darwin situation. Thankfully it didn't come to that.

[Imran Siddiqui]

http://www.vox.com/2014/8/14/6004215/a-considerably-different-atmosphere-in-ferguson-tonight

Thankfully the Missouri Highway Patrol are actually competent cops unlike the morons who call themselves police in Ferguson.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Seriously. The police should have only been on scene in a hands off capacity in case the situation escalated. The time to have been out in force was the 12th in order to tamp down on the looting and violence that happened then. This show of force against peaceful protest was needlessly inflammatory to citizenry and is counterproductive to both public order and a positive relationship with the community.

Indeed. It is absolutely ridiculous that one evening of rioting was being used by the keystone cops in Ferguson against peaceful protesting the other nights. Obviously when people are standing there with hands up or whatever, they aren't looting and rioting. They are most likely not even the same people!

[Donegeal]

Please tell me what you would have done in their place, and don't give some idiotic statement like DD did that sounds all great to start with until you realize what it really means. Take a step back from this ****ing media frenzy tell me how you'd deal with the situation. Go one step at a time, and I'll respond to what I think would happen and why. Starting with the kid being shot. I'm off today, so I have time (except for my honey doo list, of course).

[My Wife Hates CIV]

ha! cop did good!

video of the 'kid' robbing a store just moments before... roughin up a small dude who worked there.

ok ok ok - so much for the 'sweet' 'polite' 'going-to-school soon' 'wouldn't hurt anyone' BS

case over... give the cop a medal.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Please tell me what you would have done in their place

I wouldn't have shot tear gas or rubber bullets at peaceful protesters who were just standing there? Simply because the day before some other protesters rioted.

I mean, this isn't hard for folks who aren't for a military state to understand.

[Donegeal]

They are not peacefully assembled. They are violating curfew put in place because of rioting the previous night. How do you remove the protesters?

[Felch]

You don't remove protesters. Protesting is legal. What's next, removing voters?

[Imran Siddiqui]

You don't remove protesters. Protesting is legal. What's next, removing voters?

If it was up to the Ferguson police, perhaps.

[Felch]

Also there wasn't a curfew in Ferguson.

During a Wednesday afternoon press conference, police insisted that there was no curfew in Ferguson, but strongly urged protesters to limit their demonstrations to daylight hours. As the sun sets in Missouri, however, the streets remain lined with both protesters and police in military vehicles, sporting fatigues and “less-than-lethal” weaponry.

So much for you waiting til you got all the facts.

[Imran Siddiqui]

They are not peacefully assembled. They are violating curfew put in place because of rioting the previous night. How do you remove the protesters?

Do you want to lie even more? THERE IS NO CURFEW.

But yet you want to assume it is to give a pass to your violent ******* police officers.

[Imran Siddiqui]

What is this let's make up stuff to defend the people shooting rubber bullets and tear gas at peaceful protesters stuff? Y'all would be perfect defenders of Putin.

[Donegeal]

Do you want to lie even more? THERE IS NO CURFEW.

But yet you want to assume it is to give a pass to your violent ******* police officers.

**** off, Imran; and learn to read. I have said multiple times that I didn't know if there was actually a curfew. I only said it just makes the most sense. You make it sound as if I knew and was ignoring on purpose.

[Donegeal]

What is this let's make up stuff to defend the people shooting rubber bullets and tear gas at peaceful protesters stuff? Y'all would be perfect defenders of Putin.

It's not 'lets make stuff up' it's 'lets reason things through'. Having been a cop for 16 years, I have a tendency to believe police have legitimate law enforcement reasons for doing what they do; and 99% of the time I am proven right.