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  • #16
    Originally posted by rah View Post
    Saying a person that smoked last week is impaired this week is absurd. But that's how it's treated in Illinois.
    If there was a better test, this would change. But it would be interesting what they considered to high to drive.
    If they are driving badly enough to attract the attention of the cops and test positive for drugs, my heart bleeds for them.
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    • #17
      I don't have a problem with that either. It's in accident situations where it's a problem.
      It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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      • #18
        I'm against punishing drunk drivers just for being intoxicated. If they're driving is dangerous, it'd be one thing, but when they're clearly not at fault, their alcohol level is irrelevant.
        John Brown did nothing wrong.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Felch View Post
          I'm against punishing drunk drivers just for being intoxicated. If they're driving is dangerous, it'd be one thing, but when they're clearly not at fault, their alcohol level is irrelevant.
          I agree with the sentiment, but I think the result would be many people thinking they are ok to drive when they really aren't. Arresting them after the accident, or worse fatality, is not my preferred option.
          One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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          • #20
            1) The driver of the oher vehicle should be charged with DUI, clearly.

            1) The driver of the vehicle that ran the red light and crashed should be charged with the death of the girl, and is to be blamed for the accident.

            1) Another item number one.
            Indifference is Bliss

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Felch View Post
              I'm against punishing drunk drivers just for being intoxicated. If they're driving is dangerous, it'd be one thing, but when they're clearly not at fault, their alcohol level is irrelevant.
              Your driving can be totally not dangerous, but your reflexes might still be heavily impaired and cause an accident.
              Indifference is Bliss

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              • #22
                We still let old people drive despite slow reaction times ( and other impairments)
                One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                • #23
                  I could be stoned out of my mind, yet still be "okay to drive".
                  Denial, ain't just a river in Egypt.

                  I'm going to enjoy the next 40 years of pointing out to children why my generation are morons.

                  Sava, innumerable Drunks have said the exact same thing as you did, gotten behind the wheel and killed someone. It's why we have drunk driving laws.

                  I'm against punishing drunk drivers just for being intoxicated. If they're driving is dangerous, it'd be one thing, but when they're clearly not at fault, their alcohol level is irrelevant.
                  Get in an accident with alcohol in your blood? Probably best to stop driving drunk.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                    Denial, ain't just a river in Egypt.

                    I'm going to enjoy the next 40 years of pointing out to children why my generation are morons.

                    Sava, innumerable Drunks have said the exact same thing as you did, gotten behind the wheel and killed someone. It's why we have drunk driving laws.
                    lol totally missing the point LOL


                    Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                    Get in an accident with alcohol in your blood? Probably best to stop driving drunk.
                    Even if said accident wasn't your fault? What sort of criteria should be used?
                    Indifference is Bliss

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Dauphin View Post
                      We still let old people drive despite slow reaction times ( and other impairments)
                      They do need to pass a drivers test (at least over here) every x amount of time, depending on their age. Also, being old is not something you can chose whether to do or not (but this is only tangentially relevant).
                      Indifference is Bliss

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                        Denial, ain't just a river in Egypt.

                        I'm going to enjoy the next 40 years of pointing out to children why my generation are morons.

                        Sava, innumerable Drunks have said the exact same thing as you did, gotten behind the wheel and killed someone. It's why we have drunk driving laws.
                        How much experience do you have with pot?

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                        • #27
                          Even if said accident wasn't your fault? What sort of criteria should be used?
                          I've been at fault for an accident that wasn't my fault either. My insurance didn't care.

                          Driving with alcohol in your blood is a major preventable increase in risk.
                          Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                          "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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                          • #28
                            How much experience do you have with pot?
                            Cleaning up the messes they leave behind? Tons.

                            Potheads are saying exactly what drunks used to say. Word for word.

                            There was a time when you could find ads for alcohol that touted the health benefits. Now we have the same ads but for pot. I'm going to enjoy teaching that in history class.

                            1950's smoking ads with the pot advertisements today. Compare and contrast. How are pot smoker's views comparable to smoking in the 50s? Why might pot dealers want you to think these things?
                            Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                            "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
                            2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

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                            • #29
                              Insurance companies have rules for a reason. You were at fault. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.
                              To us, it is the BEAST.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                                Cleaning up the messes they leave behind? Tons.

                                Potheads are saying exactly what drunks used to say. Word for word.

                                There was a time when you could find ads for alcohol that touted the health benefits. Now we have the same ads but for pot. I'm going to enjoy teaching that in history class.

                                1950's smoking ads with the pot advertisements today. Compare and contrast. How are pot smoker's views comparable to smoking in the 50s? Why might pot dealers want you to think these things?
                                So in other words you've never used pot, and you're also not a scientist who has researched its effects, and have no basis for guessing whether pot makes someone unfit to drive and what dosage of pot is necessary to make someone unfit to drive a car.

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