Should You PM Ben or Not

[dannubis]

Kum-ba-yah ?

[AAAAAAAAH!]

When someone does this, you let me know.




I've not made any comments regarding the banning of anyone. So far, I've only said BK should be thrown into a latrine. I stand by that.

Of course he should but that's nothing new.

[Lorizael]

As far as I'm concerned, the best reason not to bash Pekka's wife (besides it not helping, not being cool, and theoretically being against site rules) is that, as much as Pekka's situation is terrible and deserving of sympathy, we only have his side of the story and can't say with any degree of certainty what's really going on. We should all remember that Pekka is a crazy Finn. But that's all I'll say on that subject, because I don't really want to disparage Pekka and because I operate under the principle that everything everyone says here is literally true, regardless of its plausibility.

[PLATO]

I'm always disappointed that so many people here, who are otherwise smart individuals, allow themselves to be taken in by this mania that compels them to dogpile on Ben. I generally find that far more disruptive than Ben's usual behavior.

I respectfully disagree. I have come to the conclusion that Ben exhibits racist and homphobic charateristics, uses faulty logic in the face of facts, and tries to lie to cover up mistakes...repeatedly.

I do respect Ben for being a person of faith and respect his right to believe what he chooses. My issues are solely the above. I do not "dogpile" but I do call them as I see 'em.

The fact that you find people exhibiting this kind of behavior being called out on it as more disruptive than the behavior itself is somewhat unusual, but feel as you will.

I will be happy to lay off Ben when he exhibits tolerence and is able to admit that he is wrong when faced with facts. As I said, there are qualities to admire in Ben, but he overshadows them with bigotry and lies.

Ben has no one but himself to blame for people calling him out.

[Ben Kenobi]

I respectfully disagree. I have come to the conclusion that Ben exhibits racist and homphobic charateristics, uses faulty logic in the face of facts, and tries to lie to cover up mistakes...repeatedly.

Well then, which race?

As for the rest - what the Church teaches is not bigotry even if folks think it is because it teaches a truth that they don't like about it. If you believe that my feelings extend further then this, I'd like you to say why you believe this to be so.

I will be happy to lay off Ben when he exhibits tolerance

What? When I say that black is white and 'it's ok to **** whomever you want, God says love is the primary good.'? Or did you have something else in mind?

Ben has no one but himself to blame for people calling him out.

I have exactly zero ****s to give about people being upset at me calling a spade a spade. I thought it, I said it, and I know I'm not the only one.

I'm personally amused that my critics can't even agree on what to hate me for.

[kentonio]

Its perfectly understandable, there are so many things to choose from after all..

[Egbert]

Don't PM Ben. What he said was extremely offensive. I'm surprised he's still allowed to post here after that.

Saying extremely offensive things on OT is perfectly normal behaviour. We all do it.

I am very surprised that you are surprised.

[Egbert]

I'm always disappointed that so many people here, who are otherwise smart individuals, allow themselves to be taken in by this mania that compels them to dogpile on Ben. I generally find that far more disruptive than Ben's usual behavior.

[N35t0r]

If only people stopped responding to him

[self biased]

I can't recall how many threads blew up overnight, but upon further investigation was a Ben/molly circle-jerk.

[Ben Kenobi]

True, I'm guilty of poking the bear at times.

[The Mad Monk]

I never would have pegged Molly as being a bear.

[Sava]

I never would have pegged Molly

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.