Prescott Bush, father of George HW Bush, was part of a fascist plot to overthrow the US government.

[Sava]

Is it necessary to rehash the whole rich suburb has quality law enforcement response time deal? I thought we were past this.

[The Mad Monk]

Wow, this is really bothering you. I didn't expect you to be a classist.

[Sava]

Wow, this is really bothering you. I didn't expect you to be a classist.

I've made a moral judgment?

It only "bothers" me because there's nothing funny.

[Ben Kenobi]

Isn't this story several years old?

And yet, it's still fresher than your story.

[Ben Kenobi]

TMM: You're surprised? Sava's one of those champagne socialists.

[Sava]

My family is the American dream. Why do you hate America?

[Al B. Sure!]

Sava's comments about heroes is ironic because the reason the conspirators planned to use veterans groups was because veterans were not well treatef in this era. The infrastructure to help veterans including the gi bill and a robust VA only came about after WW2

[Sava]

I don't think you know what "irony" means.

[Al B. Sure!]

It's ironic because of this:

I'm glad you think we should forget about the sacrifices of the men who died fighting for your freedom. Why do you hate America?

The sacrifices of the World War I and Banana Wars generation were forgotten. That same mistreatment was the reason the conspirators thought they had a potential SA in the veterans, particularly the anti-war Smedley Butler.

Maybe you heard of the Bonus Army?

The Bonus Army was the popular name of an assemblage of some 43,000 marchers—17,000 World War I veterans, their families, and affiliated groups—who gathered in Washington, D.C., in the spring and summer of 1932 to demand cash-payment redemption of their service certificates. Its organizers called it the Bonus Expeditionary Force to echo the name of World War I's American Expeditionary Force, while the media called it the Bonus March. It was led by Walter W. Waters, a former Army sergeant.

Many of the war veterans had been out of work since the beginning of the Great Depression. The World War Adjusted Compensation Act of 1924 had awarded them bonuses in the form of certificates they could not redeem until 1945. Each service certificate, issued to a qualified veteran soldier, bore a face value equal to the soldier's promised payment plus compound interest. The principal demand of the Bonus Army was the immediate cash payment of their certificates.

Retired Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler, one of the most popular military figures of the time, visited their camp to back the effort and encourage them.[1] On July 28, U.S. Attorney General William D. Mitchell ordered the veterans removed from all government property. Washington police met with resistance, shots were fired and two veterans were wounded and later died. Veterans were also shot dead at other locations during the demonstration. President Herbert Hoover then ordered the army to clear the veterans' campsite. Army Chief of Staff General Douglas MacArthur commanded the infantry and cavalry supported by six tanks. The Bonus Army marchers with their wives and children were driven out, and their shelters and belongings burned.

At 4:45 p.m., commanded by Gen. Douglas MacArthur, the 12th Infantry Regiment, Fort Howard, Maryland, and the 3rd Cavalry Regiment, supported by six battle tanks commanded by Maj. George S. Patton, formed in Pennsylvania Avenue while thousands of civil service employees left work to line the street and watch. The Bonus Marchers, believing the troops were marching in their honor, cheered the troops until Patton ordered the cavalry to charge them—an action which prompted the spectators to yell, "Shame! Shame!"

After the cavalry charged, the infantry, with fixed bayonets and tear gas (adamsite, an arsenical vomiting agent) entered the camps, evicting veterans, families, and camp followers. The veterans fled across the Anacostia River to their largest camp and President Hoover ordered the assault stopped. However Gen. MacArthur, feeling the Bonus March was an attempt to overthrow the U.S. government, ignored the President and ordered a new attack. Fifty-five veterans were injured and 135 arrested.[12] A veteran's wife miscarried. When 12-week-old Bernard Myers died in the hospital after being caught in the tear gas attack, a government investigation reported he died of enteritis, while a hospital spokesman said the tear gas "didn't do it any good."[16]

During the military operation, Major Dwight D. Eisenhower, later the 34th President of the United States, served as one of MacArthur's junior aides.[17] Believing it wrong for the Army's highest-ranking officer to lead an action against fellow American war veterans, he strongly advised MacArthur against taking any public role: "I told that dumb son-of-a-***** not to go down there," he said later. "I told him it was no place for the Chief of Staff."[18] Despite his misgivings, Eisenhower later wrote the Army's official incident report which endorsed MacArthur's conduct.[19]

[Sava]

Cause and effect isn't irony. Those events, among others, lead to things like the GI bill. Thanks for replying and proving you don't know what it means.

[DaShi]

If there's a funny, I'm missing it.

Only TMM is dumb enough to think his posts are clever.

[Al B. Sure!]

Cause and effect isn't irony. Those events, among others, lead to things like the GI bill. Thanks for replying and proving you don't know what it means.

MacArthur thought the Bonus Army was an attempt to overthrow the government. Fascist parties in other countries, including the Nazi party, began as veterans organizations. There's a reason the conspirators sought out Gen. Butler and believed they could use a veterans organization to provide the muscle to overthrow the government.

You mentioning platitudes of soldiers fighting for freedom is ironic because the freedom of the early 1930's US government did those same soldiers no good. The planned fascist coup might have settled their grievances.

[Ben Kenobi]

My family is the American dream. Why do you hate America?

If I hated it so much, why would I have given up so much to come here?

I find it telling that it's not "I" am the American dream, but your family.

[Ben Kenobi]

You mentioning platitudes of soldiers fighting for freedom is ironic because the freedom of the early 1930's US government did those same soldiers no good. The planned fascist coup might have settled their grievances.

Uh, most regard the Bonus army as Socialists (which is what they were, fwiw).

[Sava]

The planned fascist coup might have settled their grievances.

Right. It's not like a bunch of rich guys were looking after their own business interests.