Political quiz

[kentonio]

Which is why I think the speech was important. Why should the UK be ashamed of its Christian past?

We've spend decades pushing religion the hell out of public life. Why exactly would we want to invite it back in? Britain is supposedly 59.5% Christian (and even that's wildly overrated due to people still just putting down CoE out of habit). Why would we start talking about Christianity having relevance to how we live our lives, when only just over half (at the very most generous estimate) even believe in it?

[Felch]

False.

The Anglican church is the bastard offspring of Catholicism (which isn't Christianity... and hasn't been since they split from Christianity).

The Anglican church is just Western Orthodoxy. It retains the most essential element of Orthodoxy - Caesaropapism.

[Imran Siddiqui]

We've spend decades pushing religion the hell out of public life. Why exactly would we want to invite it back in? Britain is supposedly 59.5% Christian (and even that's wildly overrated due to people still just putting down CoE out of habit). Why would we start talking about Christianity having relevance to how we live our lives, when only just over half (at the very most generous estimate) even believe in it?

Perhaps PM Cameron doesn't want religion pushed "the hell out of public life".

[kentonio]

Perhaps PM Cameron doesn't want religion pushed "the hell out of public life".

Let's see how well that works out for him at the next election.

Here's the most up to date poll incidentally on intentions to vote in next general election..

36% - Lab
32% - Cons
13% - UKIP
10% - Lib Dem
9% - Others

[Sava]

Wrong.

People can call themselves whatever they want. But you can't lie to God. I mean, you can, but He sees through all this human bull****.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Let's see how well that works out for him at the next election.

What, you think its because of his views on the UK's Christian history that is making the polling turn out the way it is? Besides, isn't this changing goalposts? Does it matter how the remarks are received if he truly believes it - isn't the discussion about his beliefs rather than how those beliefs poll?

[Sava]

The Anglican church is just Western Orthodoxy. It retains the most essential element of Orthodoxy - Caesaropapism.

Orthodoxy has no "pope".

The Serbs have a church patriarch. But he's just a tired old sack with no actual power.

[kentonio]

What, you think its because of his views on the UK's Christian history that is making the polling turn out the way it is? Besides, isn't this changing goalposts?

The main reason is his underhand policies towards the NHS (which he'd promised to protect) and his government already seeming wildly out of touch with normal people after only a few years in power. The religious stuff has not gone unnoticed however, and is playing its own part. If you want to get on in national politics here, you don't go around waving your religious beliefs in the air, something Tony Blair understand perfectly well.

Does it matter how the remarks are received if he truly believes it - isn't the discussion about his beliefs rather than how those beliefs poll?

Who gives a toss about his beliefs? When he speaks as the Prime Minister then he's speaking in an official capacity. His personal beliefs have absolutely no place in that. He's the Prime Minister of millions of atheists, Muslims, Sikhs, Hindus and so on too, trying to tell us we should accept our country being built around Christianity is unacceptable.

If you understand how deeply secular this country really is, you'll understand why this kind of thing is not tolerated here.

[AAAAAAAAH!]

False.

The Anglican church is the bastard offspring of Catholicism (which isn't Christianity... and hasn't been since they split from Christianity).

Of course not, only Monophysites are true Christians.

[Sava]

The main reason is his underhand policies towards the NHS (which he'd promised to protect) and his government already seeming wildly out of touch with normal people after only a few years in power. The religious stuff has not gone unnoticed however, and is playing its own part. If you want to get on in national politics here, you don't go around waving your religious beliefs in the air, something Tony Blair understand perfectly well.



Who gives a toss about his beliefs? When he speaks as the Prime Minister then he's speaking in an official capacity. His personal beliefs have absolutely no place in that. He's the Prime Minister of millions of atheists, Muslims, Sikhs, Hindus and so on too, trying to tell us we should accept our country being built around Christianity is unacceptable.

If you understand how deeply secular this country really is, you'll understand why this kind of thing is not tolerated here.

but but... he's "sane"!

[AAAAAAAAH!]

Orthodoxy has no "pope".

The Serbs have a church patriarch. But he's just a tired old sack with no actual power.

No one really gives a crap about the Archbishop of Canterbury either.

[Imran Siddiqui]

The main reason is his underhand policies towards the NHS (which he'd promised to protect) and his government already seeming wildly out of touch with normal people after only a few years in power. The religious stuff has not gone unnoticed however, and is playing its own part. If you want to get on in national politics here, you don't go around waving your religious beliefs in the air, something Tony Blair understand perfectly well.

Great... and irrelevant.

Who gives a toss about his beliefs? When he speaks as the Prime Minister then he's speaking in an official capacity. His personal beliefs have absolutely no place in that. He's the Prime Minister of millions of atheists, Muslims, Sikhs, Hindus and so on too, trying to tell us we should accept our country being built around Christianity is unacceptable.

If you understand how deeply secular this country really is, you'll understand why this kind of thing is not tolerated here.

You don't care about the beliefs of your highest officials? Really?

And its amazing how bent out of shape y'all can get about your PM expressing a truism.

[Sava]

No one really gives a crap about the Archbishop of Canterbury either.

Yup.

Though, I've never heard him referred to as being a "pope".

[Sava]

truism.

A "truism" requires the statement actually be true.

[DinoDoc]

No one really gives a crap about the Archbishop of Canterbury either.

He's not the head of the Anglican Church. Queen Elizabeth II is.