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    The Next Frontier In The War Over Science

    WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration and the scientific community at large are expressing serious alarm at a House Republican bill that they argue would dramatically undermine way research is conducted in America.

    Titled the “Frontiers in Innovation, Research, Science, and Technology (FIRST) Act of 2014," the bill would put a variety of new restrictions on how funds are doled out by the National Science Foundation. The goal, per its Republican supporters on the House Science, Space and Technology Committee, would be to weed out projects whose cost can't be justified or whose sociological purpose is not apparent.

    For Democrats and advocates, however, the FIRST Act represents a dangerous injection of politics into science and a direct assault on the much-cherished peer-review process by which grants are awarded.

    "We have a system of peer-review science that has served as a model for not only research in this country but in others," said Bill Andresen, the associate vice president of Federal Affairs at the University of Pennsylvania. "The question is, does Congress really think it has the better ability to determine the scientific merit of grant applications or should it be left up to the scientists and their peers?"

    In recent weeks, the Obama administration and science agencies have -- in less-than-subtle terms -- offered up similar criticisms of the FIRST Act. At an American Association for the Advancement of Science forum on Thursday, presidential science adviser John Holdren said he was "concerned with a number of aspects" of the bill.

    "It appears aimed at narrowing the focus of NSF-funded research to domains that are applied to various national interests other than simply advancing the progress of science," Holdren said.

    Meanwhile, in a show of protest that several officials in the science advocacy community could not recall having witnessed before, the National Science Board released a statement in late April criticizing the bill. As the oversight body to the National Science Foundation, the NSB traditionally stays out of legislative fights. So when it warned that the FIRST Act could "significantly impede NSF's flexibility to deploy its funds to support the best ideas," advocates said they were surprised and pleased.

    "The fact that the NSB commented on legislation, I don’t know if it is unprecedented but it is at least extremely unusual," said Barry Toiv, a top official at the Association of American Universities. "And we think that speaks to the really serious problems posed by the legislation."

    And yet, for all the concerns with the FIRST Act, it seems unlikely that the bill's main author will incorporate additional changes. Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas), who chairs the House science committee, decided early on that he would take a different approach to re-authorizing science research funding. Instead of passing an updated version of a 2010 bill that funded four agencies under the committee's purview, he chose to split the bill in two and offered two years of funding, as opposed to four years. From that decision came the FIRST Act.

    The bill actually increases funding for the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the National Science Foundation by 1.5 percent in fiscal year 2015. But while that may seem like a good deal for agencies suffering the lingering effects of sequestration, it fails to keep pace with inflation and falls well short of the 4.9 percent increase that Democrats wanted.

    Smith, as reported by the Boston Globe, also chose to significantly tighten the regulations on how the money in the bill would be allocated. For example, the bill would require the NSF to ensure that one grant recipient didn't receive a grant from another federal agency for research with the "same scientific aims and scope." The idea was to prevent double dipping. But advocates warn that it could dry up funds for research with multiple components.

    Another part of the bill stipulates that if an investigator receives more than five years of funding from the NSF, he or she can only get additional funding by contributing "original creative, and transformative research under the grant." Ensuring that the government doesn't plow resources into stalled projects may be laudable. But scientists shudder at the idea that they, let alone politicians, can definitively tell whether research will pay dividends after half a decade.

    These quips merely feed a larger problem that Democrats and the White House have with the bill. Rather than offering a single budget level for the NSF, the FIRST Act authorizes levels for individual directorates, or sub-agencies, within the foundation. The big winners in this equation are the Directorate for Computer & Information Science & Engineering and the Directorate for Engineering. The loser is the Social, Behavioral, and Economic Sciences Directorate, which is poised to get a 22 percent budget cut from fiscal year 2014 levels.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5269527.html

    I was hoping this would have died a death last time it came up, but Republicans are nothing if not consistent about trying to **** things up.

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    As always, it is paramount that basic research be conducted, and it is obvious why the private sector cannot engage in basic research (with some exceptions). Therefore, the government must take up the slack. If basic research is threatened by this bill, then this is a bad bill.
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    • #3
      It's just going to inevitably lead to grandstanding by politicians who pick out some research they don't really understand but which sounds silly on the surface and then make a huge deal about cutting it.

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      • #4
        Idiots. We've got idiots on our team.
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        • #5
          I'm sure Europe and Asia can take up the slack in the soft sciences. We are one big community, right?
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          • #6
            I'm fairly sure Asia will be taking on a giant share of scientific development in the coming century anyway. China has crazy amounts of science graduates already.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by The Mad Monk View Post
              I'm sure Europe and Asia can take up the slack in the soft sciences. We are one big community, right?
              Sure, but when Europe and Asia figure out pyschohistory and engineer a future in which America is no longer significant, don't going crying to Hari Seldon.
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              • #8
                No worries, I'll be long dead by then.
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                  Seldon's dead hand?
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                  • #10
                    Congress has the authority to decide how federal money is spent, and it's not like there aren't plenty of private universities in the US that are flush with cash and eager to make a name for themselves. Wake me when there's a sudden surge in funding for creationism or other nonsense.
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                    • #11
                      If they pay for it they have a right to oversee it. A lot of bad science is funded by the government, for instance everything in the fields of psychology and sociology.

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                      • #12
                        why the private sector cannot engage in basic research
                        Balderdash. I have a very good friend of mine now crowdfunding the MOST telescope. It *can* be done. People are definitely willing to fund folks.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
                          If they pay for it they have a right to oversee it. A lot of bad science is funded by the government, for instance everything in the fields of psychology and sociology.
                          Someone needs to conduct a study to determine why conservatives are so biased against psychology.
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                          • #14
                            why conservatives are so biased against psychology.
                            The subjectivity of the discipline doesn't bother you?
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
                              If they pay for it they have a right to oversee it. A lot of bad science is funded by the government, for instance everything in the fields of psychology and sociology.
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