North Carolina clergy challenge state's anti-gay Amendment One on basis of religious freedom.

[MrFun]

Pro-life? I believe you mean anti-choice / anti-women / doodyheaded

I don't understand the objection to "anti-choice" for the other side of the issue.

"Pro-choice" people are often "pro-life," too.

[MrFun]

Although, amusingly, it let to Mr Fun sending me a Facebook message complaining about Apolyton when he got called out on his "It's been 3 hours and no one has responded to Meeeee"-ness.

Though that was before I got uber-pissed at him (and reamed him out) for turning a Facebook article I shared into a gay rights discussion.

Good to see you respect the purpose of PRIVATE messages on the Internet. Do you also have a habit of sharing Apolyton private messages to/from you here, too?

[AAAAAAAAH!]

I don't understand the objection to "anti-choice" for the other side of the issue.

"Pro-choice" people are often "pro-life," too.

"Pro-life" people are often "pro-choice" in some sense... dduh.

[loinburger]

I don't understand the objection to "anti-choice" for the other side of the issue.

It adds nothing to the dialogue - nobody in the history of the internet has been swayed by being called "anti-choice" or "anti-life" or "anti-women" or "pro-murder" etc. All these terms accomplish is to give a sense of smug self-approbation to the person using them.

[MrFun]

You want to talk about smug self-approbation? How about how anti-choice people co-opted the term "pro-life" for themselves, as if they're the only ones who are "pro-life?"

[loinburger]

How about how pro-baby-murder people co-opted the term "pro-choice" for themselves, as if they're the only ones who are "pro-choice?"

This is how ridiculous you sound

[AAAAAAAAH!]

The slowwhand quotes in your signature scare me.

Anti-choice, except for deviant bastards where he's anti-life

[Kidlicious]

Stop waging war on women loinburger

[AAAAAAAAH!]

Kidicious did you have a ****ty father? And is MrFun's lashing out at conservatives on the internet connected to daddy issues?

[Kidlicious]

Stop waging war on fathers!

[Kidlicious]

Also there are 33 war on gays laws

[Ben Kenobi]

You want to talk about smug self-approbation? How about how anti-choice people co-opted the term "pro-life" for themselves, as if they're the only ones who are "pro-life?"

If one believes that abortion kills another person, then yes, pro-life is entirely correct.

Would you call antislavery activists, anti-slavery, or abolitionists? Would you call gay rights activists, anti-Christian or pro-rights?

[Ben Kenobi]

Good to see you respect the purpose of PRIVATE messages on the Internet. Do you also have a habit of sharing Apolyton private messages to/from you here, too?

Why not? You've already said you're in favor of outing the private statements of your enemies. Sauce, goose, gander.

[Sava]

I'm playing a game where I see how many blocked comments I have in a row between kidicious and ben. Pretty good thread.

[Sava]

It adds nothing to the dialogue - nobody in the history of the internet has been swayed by being called "anti-choice" or "anti-life" or "anti-women" or "pro-murder" etc. All these terms accomplish is to give a sense of smug self-approbation to the person using them.

There's no point to dialogue in America wrt to any of that. Thinking you are better than the other person is the whole point of having a thought on the matter.