climate change denial is worse than anti-vax movement

[DaShi]

Please stop using facts and logics to make your arguments. Either insult someone or ask pointless, ignorant questions because you can't come up with a better response.

[Lorizael]

Don't forget that anti-vaxxers are not just a danger to themselves and their dependents; they're also a danger to the segment of the population that cannot be vaccinated for whatever reason.

[DaShi]

And they reduce the sale of overpriced first world vaccines that are used to subsidize third world vaccines.

[Buster Crabbe's Uncle]

Flu Vaccine Cuts Hospitalization Risk For Kids, CDC Says
LiveScience.com
by Megan Gannon, News Editor March 27, 2014 3:02 PM



The flu vaccine reduced children's risk of developing a life-threatening influenza infection by three quarters during the 2010-2011 and 2011-2012 flu seasons in the United States, according to a new report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Although vaccination may not always prevent the flu, the new findings suggest flu shots do protect kids from the more serious complications of infection that require hospitalization, CDC officials said.

"These study results underscore the importance of an annual flu vaccination, which can keep your child from ending up in the intensive care unit," Dr. Alicia Fry, a medical officer in CDC's Influenza Division, said in a statement. "It is extremely important that all children — especially children at high risk of flu complications — are protected from what can be a life-threatening illness."

Fry's team studied 216 children ages 6 months to 17 years old who were admitted to 21 different pediatric intensive care units in the United States during the 2010-2011 and 2011-2012 flu seasons, looking to see which kids had been vaccinated. Of the children in the study, 44 tested positive for influenza, and 172 were influenza-negative controls. The researchers also looked at 93 kids who had not been hospitalized during those flu seasons, as "community controls."

Flu vaccination reduced a child's risk of landing in the ICU for flu by 74 percent, the researchers found.

More than half (55 percent) of the kids who came down with life-threatening case of the flu had at least one underlying chronic medical condition that placed them at higher risk of complications, CDC officials said. Still, the study revealed low vaccination rates among the kids hospitalized for the flu — only 18 percent of them had been fully vaccinated against influenza. In contrast, 39 percent of the ICU controls and 51 percent of community controls had received flu shots.

Previous studies have suggested that adults who get the flu develop less severe symptoms if they were vaccinated. A study published last year in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases found that adults of all ages who got the flu shot were less likely to be hospitalized with the flu.

The CDC recommends seasonal flu shots for everyone 6 months of age and older. A new flu vaccine is concocted each year, as strains of the virus are constantly changing.

Health officials typically measure the effectiveness of a vaccine based how well it protects against visits to the doctor for flu symptoms, which can include fever, cough, sore throat, runny nose, muscle aches, headaches and sometimes diarrhea and vomiting. By this standard, the effectiveness of the 2010-2011 flu shot was 60 percent; for the 2011-2012 vaccine, it was 47 percent, CDC officials said.

The new findings were detailed Thursday (March 27) in the Journal of Infectious Diseases

http://news.yahoo.com/flu-vaccine-cu...190206667.html

[Ben Kenobi]

thanks to climate deniers gumming up the process.

Maybe we should execute people for being climate deniers.

[Buster Crabbe's Uncle]

When the proof comes someday, see if there aren't some murders happen over this.

[Kidlicious]

Old programmers suck. The market doesn't lie.

[DaShi]

Old programmers suck. The market doesn't lie.

Well, I'm swayed.

[Ben Kenobi]

When the proof comes someday, see if there aren't some murders happen over this.

One would think that a scientific theory would prevail on merit.

[Buster Crabbe's Uncle]

Ben.

Ben.

A denier didn't just say that.

[regexcellent]

O HO HO

You think so, do you?

Get comfy.

So, my stay at O'Hare was uneventful, but when I got back to Rochester it was snowing super hard and I couldn't bust 20 miles an hour on the drive home, not even on the interstate, and lost control once. **** O'Hare that place is cursed.

[Buster Crabbe's Uncle]

UN panel: 8 reasons to worry about global warming
Associated Press
By SETH BORENSTEIN and KAORI HITOMI 11 hours ago



FILE - This Nov. 13, 2013 file photo, shows typhoon damaged fuel tanks along the coast in Tanawan, central Philippines. A United Nations panel of scientists has drafted a list of eight ``key risks” about climate change that’s easy to understand and illustrates the issues that have the greatest potential to cause harm to the planet. The list is part of a massive report on how global warming is affecting humans and the planet and how the future will be worse unless something is done about it. The report is being finalized at a meeting on the weekend of March 29, 2014 by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. (AP Photo/Wally Santana, File)



YOKOHAMA, Japan (AP) — If you have already read "12 Pieces of Practical Advice from Housecats," now you can move on to "8 Reasons to Worry about Global Warming."

A United Nations panel of scientists is joining the list craze with what they call eight "key risks" that are part of broader "reasons for concern" about climate change.

It's part of a massive report on how global warming is affecting humans and the planet and how the future will be worse unless something is done about it. The report is being finalized at a meeting this weekend by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

They assembled the list to "make it understandable and to illustrate the issues that have the greatest potential to cause real harm," the report's chief author, Chris Field of the Carnegie Institution of Science in California, said in an interview.

But a draft of the list — called by the acronym RFCs — includes science-heavy language, caveats and uses lowercase Roman numerals, for example using iv instead of 4.

A boiled-down version of what the scientists say the warmed-up future holds for Earth if climate change continues:



FILE - In this Aug. 3, 2012 file photo, an Indian farmer shows a dry, cracked paddy field in Ranbir Singh Pura 34 kilometers (21 miles) from Jammu, India. A United Nations panel of scientists has drafted a list of eight ``key risks” about climate change that’s easy to understand and illustrates the issues that have the greatest potential to cause harm to the planet. The list is part of a massive report on how global warming is affecting humans and the planet and how the future will be worse unless something is done about it. The report is being finalized at a meeting on the weekend of March 29, 2014 by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. (AP Photo/Channi Anand, File)


1. Coastal flooding will kill people and cause destruction.

2. Some people will go hungry because of warming, drought and severe downpours.

3. Big cites will be damaged by inland flooding.

4. Water shortages will make the poor even poorer in rural areas.

5. Crazy weather, like storms, can make life miserable, damaging some of the things we take for granted, like electricity, running water and emergency services.

6. Some fish and other marine animals could be in trouble, which will probably hurt fishing communities.

7. Some land animals won't do much better and that's not good for people who depend on them.

8. Heat waves, especially in cities, will kill the elderly and very young.

So far, the scientists haven't come up with the next step, common on Facebook pages: The interactive quiz to determine which global warming problem you most resemble.

http://news.yahoo.com/un-panel-8-rea...051137736.html

[Dauphin]

If you compare the carbon footprint (or whatever yardstick you want to use) of the average climate change denier with the carbon footprint of the average climate change believer then I'll bet you'll find that they're about the same. In contrast, if you compare the quality of life / life expectancy of the children under the guardianship of the average anti-vaxxer I'll bet you'll find that it is significantly worse than that of the children under the guardianship of the average pro-vaxxer.

Beggar thy neighbour?

If Climate Change were accepted by everyone everywhere would we find government policy that would actually have traction and everyone's footprint would be lower.

[C0ckney]

it's not just that though. most people believe that climate change is happening, but give it relatively little importance compared to other political issues.

[Dauphin]

Of course. Because they don't see the point (and the consequences are remote).

Similar reason to why people often don't even vote - they think their actions will make no difference. You could say that, on average, for about 1/3rd to 2/5th of the population there is nothing of sufficient political interest to make them even express an official opinion.