When will the Catholic church just give in to secularism

[DinoDoc]

so does taxing more

Not really. That just leads to even greater spending.

[Sava]

Not really. That just leads to even greater spending.

so you've been told

50 years of tax cuts and all we have for it is more spending

Clinton slightly raised rates... deficit turns into surplus



Also, it helps to have other policies in place that DON'T cause the next Great Depression

republicans

[DinoDoc]

so you've been told

By history.

[Sava]

By history.

or rather, some idiot's false interpretation of it

[DinoDoc]

or rather, some idiot's false interpretation of it

I would be happy if you could provide one time in the history of the federal government that an increase in taxes wasn't accompanied by an increase in spending. You might convert me into a tepid supporter of a VAT for the purposes of debt reduction if your information checks out.

[Sava]

The only tax increase to the top rate since WW2 came in 1993 under Clinton... rates for the top went from 31% to 39.6%

Total federal spending increased only slightly in the next few years... and shrunk as a % of GDP.

In fact, the only years spending has decreased (in recent history) has been under Obama. That's right, Obama is the only president to lower spending from one year to the next.

So please... become a Dem activist. They practice what you preach.

[100% Wolf]

Not really. That just leads to even greater spending.

Did Bush's tax cuts lead to lower spending? Did Clinton's tax hikes lead to higher spending? (Relative to GDP).

[Sava]

Did Bush's tax cuts lead to lower spending?

No.

Did Clinton's tax hikes lead to higher spending? (Relative to GDP).

No.

But in the DDaverse:

Yes.

Yes.

[DinoDoc]

Did Bush's tax cuts lead to lower spending?

No.

Did Clinton's tax hikes lead to higher spending?

Yes.

[Sava]

convenient omission

[DinoDoc]

In fact, the only years spending has decreased (in recent history) has been under Obama. That's right, Obama is the only president to lower spending from one year to the next.

That totally explains the repeated debt ceiling votes over the course of his term.

[100% Wolf]

No. Yes.

RELATIVE TO GDP. Or do you live in a fantasy land where various factors like the size of the population don't affect the level of government spending and we don't need to control for them?

I'll bet the US government spends a lot more (in absolute terms) than the government of Sweden.

[Sava]

That totally explains the repeated debt ceiling votes over the course of his term.

Numbers don't lie. Only stupid conservatives do.

[100% Wolf]

WITNESS THE TERROR OF CLINTON'S TAX AND SPEND SOCIALISM

[Imran Siddiqui]

Well that was surely embarrassing for DD.