Rape victim ordered to pay child support

[Kidlicious]

I see a problem with a milf seducing a 15 year boy. Whether he should be responsible I think is debatable. Legally, I don't think so and think it's silly. In reality, I would guess the kid knew what he was doing and was thrilled to go along with it. But I don't have all the information to make a definitive determination of that.

There's some gray area here, despite a lot of people talking in absolutes here. It's not that straightforward.

I'm actually interested in the discussion.

No one is claiming he wasn't into it. I think the question is was it possible for him to say no.

[Sava]

I also remember the Kid feces eating incident. So that's two verified sources. Can you Google and find proof against this? Didn't think so.

[rah]

No one is claiming he wasn't into it. I think the question is was it possible for him to say no.

Would Ben have said no? Could anyone have said no? Yeah, I think so.

Keep in mind that in older times, kid's that age were already married with kids.

So yeah, I think he bears some responsibility even if it's real little.
But again, it depends on the individual.

Am I right? Who knows, but it is JUST my opinion.

[Kidlicious]

I also remember the Kid feces eating incident. So that's two verified sources. Can you Google and find proof against this? Didn't think so.

Isn't it true that you and loinburger were SMOKING MARIJUANA AND LOOKING AT DICKGIRLS at the time of the alledged crime?

[Sava]

and child brides exist in india and other places now

its not so bad

[Kidlicious]

Would Ben have said no? Could anyone have said no? Yeah, I think so.

Keep in mind that in older times, kid's that age were already married with kids.

So yeah, I think he bears some responsibility even if it's real little.
But again, it depends on the individual.

Am I right? Who knows, but it is JUST my opinion.

The adult has the responsibiliy here. That's the standard. You can't allow adults to talk juveniles into doing things that are harmful to them.

[DinoDoc]

and child brides exist in India and other places now

its not so bad

This sounds like an argument from NAMBLA.

[Sava]

that kinda sounds like obama

NAMBLA
OBAMA
NAMBLA
OBAMA

say it real fast, you'll see

[notyoueither]

I disagree. I think it's stupid but I could see a case for it. But then, the US can be thankful that I'm not a judge with any real authority.

You make a good point. But maybe just between the ages of 18-30. The earlier ages these days, kids are exposed to so much more through the connectivity. So I don't know. As I said, I could be convinced either way. But for guys at 15, I believe they are capable of consent. Girls (since I had a daughter) probably a year more. But again, a judgement call. Each individual is different so the standard should probably be kept a little lower for safety.

I think it boils down to you think 15 is old enough for a boy to consent so the results for the boy in SF were OK. That's fine.

There's still a major problem with the law speaking out of two sides of its face saying on one hand that consent is impossible, but on the other that he consented. Can you grant that?

[Sava]

just don't think about it

you'll be okay

[Kidlicious]

Girls actually mature sooner than boys. I think girls understand the consequences of sex sooner than boys. They are also probably taught more not to have sex until they are ready.

[Ming]

Umm. Wow. Ming, you actually believe that a 15 year old can legally consent?

Typical lying scum... Please point out where I said that.

The big difference in the made up myth and the actual story was the issue of consent vs rape/abuse. The TRUE STORY points out that ruling was based on THAT FACT.
So yes, it was a big difference, but where did I say that I believe that a 15 year old can legally give consent?

But then again, nobody expects honesty from you. Like your buddy Kid, you just make **** up.

[DinoDoc]

So yes, it was a big difference, but where did I say that I believe that a 15 year old can legally give consent?

You appeared to give that impression here.

The fact that it was consensual is a BIG DIFFERENCE.

Though to be fair the state authorities give that impression as well. Makes me wonder about the legal justification for the woman's conviction.

[Ben Kenobi]

Typical lying scum... Please point out where I said that.

Why should it make a difference? Statutory rape is statutory rape.

The big difference in the made up myth and the actual story was the issue of consent vs rape/abuse. The TRUE STORY points out that ruling was based on THAT FACT.
So yes, it was a big difference, but where did I say that I believe that a 15 year old can legally give consent?

Statutory rape is, by definition, abuse. It doesn't matter if the child says, "I wanted it".

Maybe in Ming's world, statutory rape isn't really rape if the child says they enjoyed it. Right Ming?

[Ben Kenobi]

You can't allow adults to talk juveniles into doing things that are harmful to them.

Exactly. This isn't a difficult concept, Ming. Adults are expected to follow the law not prey on children.