I've gotten another jury summons

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No problem. When I reread what I posted, I could see how silly it might sound without additional clarification.

[Ben Kenobi]

Yes, I can remember in the south where being judged by a jury of your peers meant you could abuse blacks however you wanted and your peers would absolve you of any guilt.

Was this before or after you were told by the officer to leave the county? I remember a time when I visited NYC and the beggars were black. Obviously NYC is racially divided and prejudiced.

[pchang]

I like jury duty. My company continues to pay my salary and jury duty is a lot easier than my regular job.

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Was this before or after you were told by the officer to leave the county? I remember a time when I visited NYC and the beggars were black. Obviously NYC is racially divided and prejudiced.

Are you really trying to say that this never happened in the south? Yes, I am old enough that this was still happening in the South when I was young.

[Ben Kenobi]

Are you really trying to say that this never happened in the south?

I can find racial prejudice today. Easy. I've seen it when I passed through NYC.

Yes, I am old enough that this was still happening in the South when I was young.

Yes, and we all know you watched Sherman burn Atlanta too.

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Gee Sherman burned Atlanta in the 1960's? If you think that white men weren't getting acquitted by all white juries in the south in the 1960's you really shouldn't be teaching history.
And yes of course there's racial prejudice still today. That's why mixed juries are a good idea. Where did I say they weren't. You're an idiot.

[Ben Kenobi]

Gee Sherman burned Atlanta in the 1960's?

You didn't witness either one of them. That's my point. You say, "the south was like X".

Did you live in the South? Were you there in the South? Have you spent any time there aside from the short drive you've made? What makes you a qualified observer as to exactly how things went down in the South?

I don't claim to speak for conditions in NYC just because I was in the bus station twice, for several hours.

Why do you claim to understand what was going on in the South in the 60s?

If you think that white men weren't getting acquitted by all white juries in the south in the 1960's you really shouldn't be teaching history.

If you think that racial prejudice is confined south of the 37 and south of Mason dixon, you're quite wrong about it.

And yes of course there's racial prejudice still today. That's why mixed juries are a good idea. Where did I say they weren't. You're an idiot.

I never see you talk about it though. You only fire off shots at the South - something you never actually saw or witnessed. Why is that, rah?

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I can't believe you. You're a history major yet you claim I need to have experienced every thing first hand to properly understand it.
What A JOKE.

The civil rights movement was quite dominant in the papers and in our text books in the 60's when I was in school. We studied it often. But I guess studying it isn't sufficient to understand it.

You're an idiot.

[Ben Kenobi]

I can't believe you. You're a history major yet you claim I need to have experienced every thing first hand to properly understand it.

I never said that. You did.

Yes, I am old enough that this was still happening in the South when I was young

You're claiming to be a historical witness to events you never saw.

The civil rights movement was quite dominant in the papers and in our text books in the 60's when I was in school.

So what you're saying is that your experience with the civil rights movement is exactly the same as mine. Thank you.

You're an idiot.

Tell me, did Sherman have a beard? I've heard he was rather soft spoken.

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You didn't witness either one of them. That's my point. You say, "the south was like X".

Did you live in the South? Were you there in the South? Have you spent any time there aside from the short drive you've made? What makes you a qualified observer as to exactly how things went down in the South?

So I guess you did say that. What makes you a history major?

And yes, I have visited the south at least twice a year for the last two decades. May years I did much more due to business.
But I will admit that I never witness seeing a black man dragged behind a pickup. But that doesn't mean it never happened.

And yes I think my experience with the civil rights movement is more than yours since I actually lived through the 60's.
The town I grew up in was an example case in textbooks about how blacks were denied housing, when I was younger. I witnessed the marches, and then studied them years later at college.
It was not a proud moment for out town. I actually heard Malcolm X speak in person. But I guess none of that is actual experience.

STFU

[Ben Kenobi]

What makes you a history major?

Because I went to school and got a degree from the university of northern British Columbia. I have a BA in History. Nothing more nor less.

And yes, I have visited the south at least twice a year for the last two decades. May years I did much more due to business.
But I will admit that I never witness seeing a black man dragged behind a pickup. But that doesn't mean it never happened.

And I've never witnessed a man carjacked and executed on the corner of 55 and 94. But it's happened.

And yes I think my experience with the civil rights movement is more than yours since I actually lived through the 60's.

Why? You said you read newspapers. You're a reliable historical source on race relations of the sixties in Illinois - and the general point of view that people had back then, in your neighbourhood. Which matches the opinion you've given, the parochialism towards the south, etc. That's an expected prejudice for folks of your age and the location you're from.

You are not a reliable source on race relations in the South.

The town I grew up in was an example case in textbooks about how blacks were denied housing, when I was younger. I witnessed the marches

This is the juicy stuff. So tell us about those marchers. Who was involved? What sorts of people were there? Were there lots of white folks, or was it mostly just black folks? What sorts of jobs and clothes did they wear?

I can pull the old ballyhoo out of a textbook about the evils of Southern segregation same as you. It was emphasized in my education too - since we were with the underground railroad. Interestingly, we heard nothing about Wilberforce. In essence, the education I recieved is far more similar to education in Illinois than education down here - or in England and abroad. Which is curious, and a sign of American cultural domination on this issue. It's only later that I uncovered much of the Canadian history or even the reason why slavery was banned. We didn't get into emancipation or Wilberforce until college.

It was not a proud moment for out town. I actually heard Malcolm X speak in person. But I guess none of that is actual experience.

Absolutely that's actual experience. What was Malcolm X like in person?

[MRT144]

Sherman's march on the south = set the south back economically for decades if not a century
Black people being enslaved for far longer = get over it already

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Ben, It's useless to argue with you because of your dishonesty.
You claimed I couldn't know about something because I never experienced it, yet you claim to be an expert at history which you never experienced.

Asking me about things that I actually experienced has nothing to do with the my point. You're just doing your usual wiggle after you say something stupid.

AGAIN, if I can't know something that I didn't experience, how can you possibly consider yourself an expert at history. You didn't personally experience it.

Don't try to change the subject again.

[Ban Kenobi]

You didn't witness either one of them. That's my point. You say, "the south was like X".

Did you live in the South? Were you there in the South? Have you spent any time there aside from the short drive you've made? What makes you a qualified observer as to exactly how things went down in the South?

I don't claim to speak for conditions in NYC just because I was in the bus station twice, for several hours.

Why do you claim to understand what was going on in the South in the 60s?

Why do you claim to know Jesus rose from the dead? Were you there...?

[Ben Kenobi]

Why do you claim to know Jesus rose from the dead? Were you there...?

I say - "read the Gospels, read the accounts of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John".

Does rah say, "read the textbooks"?