America Losing Its Global Dominance In Science

[Elok]

The same Bill Clinton who used the bombing of a factory in Sudan as a distraction from his domestic political problems ? What a strange definition you must have of the word 'liberal'.

What does using war to distract from political cockups (AKA the Reverse LBJ) have to do with being liberal vs. conservative? Genuinely curious here.

Speaking of which, passing regular urinalysis should be mandatory for receiving food stamps.

Well, that would save cash, in that the druggies would quit doing food stamps and simply give their kids worse/less/no food. The savings would be offset by the expense of urinalysis for all the poor people who weren't doing drugs.

[Elok]

By the by, I know little about food insecurity, but I imagine a large number of poor families eat junk just because it helps them self-medicate the depression caused by their deeply, deeply crappy lives. Healthy food doesn't give the same rush of cheap carbs, fat and salt to dull the shame and resentment.

[Ban Kenobi]

No, that kind of means you aren't hungry by definition, since you actually acquired food.

You acquired food at least once. How does that demonstrate that you don't have problems with food access? Idiot.

[Hauldren Collider]

I don't think you've ever skipped a meal because you couldnt afford it in the moment. I have. I don't know why this idea is hard for you to comprehend other than it being another shining example of how your affluence growing up made you unempathetic and ignorant.

I've skipped plenty of meals. Not because I couldn't afford it, but because I was too busy and didn't have time to eat lunch or something. It isn't going to kill you though. Seriously, where is the malnutrition, or the starvation? Show me someone with an emaciated stomach or something and I'll believe you when you say we have a hunger problem.

Also, I'm going to posit a guess here that the reason you couldn't afford food at the moment came down to some extremely poor decision making. Just saying.

At any rate, you may have been uncomfortable, but I'm guessing your life or health was never in danger.

[Patroklos]

It's not exaggerating to describe the Low Food Security category as a problem that needs help. That in no way means that the Very Low Food Security bracket is not far worse of course. This seems pretty obvious and self explanatory. What is sad however is that many people just brush off the idea of Low Food Security as if it means nothing.

That is not what prompted this conversation. This issue is using tr term "food insecurity" instead of Low or Very Low in a dishonest attempt to treat the first like the second for dramatic effect. The fact that the metrics for Low are stupid is a different issue.

[Dauphin]

Do you really think food falls below travel in priority? Or anything, for that matter?

Mate, what did you think I meant aside travel to work....


In follow up, is your argument that food insecurity is nothing of the such - it is actually something more like housing insecurity, or heating insecurity?

[Hauldren Collider]

Mate, what did you think I meant aside travel to work....

In follow up, is your argument that food insecurity is nothing of the such - it is actually something more like housing insecurity, or heating insecurity?

My point really is that there is no one suffering from a lack of food. They may not have as much as they want, in rare cases, but a) most people end up getting more than they SHOULD, to say nothing of need, and b) no one has so little that their health suffers significantly because of it.

Those that do suffer from malnutrition are almost universally children whose parents are abusive.

[Kidlicious]

I've skipped plenty of meals. Not because I couldn't afford it, but because I was too busy and didn't have time to eat lunch or something. It isn't going to kill you though. Seriously, where is the malnutrition, or the starvation? Show me someone with an emaciated stomach or something and I'll believe you when you say we have a hunger problem.

Also, I'm going to posit a guess here that the reason you couldn't afford food at the moment came down to some extremely poor decision making. Just saying.

At any rate, you may have been uncomfortable, but I'm guessing your life or health was never in danger.

^sociopath

[Hauldren Collider]

Hey, at least I think women are people.

[Imran Siddiqui]

By the by, I know little about food insecurity, but I imagine a large number of poor families eat junk just because it helps them self-medicate the depression caused by their deeply, deeply crappy lives. Healthy food doesn't give the same rush of cheap carbs, fat and salt to dull the shame and resentment.

Well, also junk is pretty cheap comparatively (well, if we call fast food "junk food" as well) - why run to the market (if you have one near you, mind) and buy a cart of stuff when you can get a cheeseburger for $1?

Oh, and scrolling up a bit - wouldn't "Hamburger Helper" be considered 'junk' as well?

[regexcellent]

Healthy food is way cheaper and if you've ever been to your grocery store's canned or produce aisles and looked at the ****ing prices you'd know this. I can get 1000 calories worth of corn for a dollar and a half. I am an EXPERT in buying cheap ****ty food and I guarantee you that anything with beef in it, McD's quality or not, is going to cost more than vegetables. Also McD's and BK burgers cost more than a dollar, I know because I buy them a lot.

Where I am it's like, $3 maybe less for a dozen very large eggs, $2 for a gallon of milk, a pound of cheese is something like $5 I think? Actually that seems high but I don't remember cause it's been a while since I bought cheese other than kraft singles. A pound of potatoes is a dollar. I get 5 pound bags of apples for $8 I think. Pretty much the only cheap meat is chicken, and the $1/pound stuff is mostly gristle.

[Kidlicious]

Hey, at least I think women are people.

At least It's just fine though if they don't have money for food though eh?

[MRT144]

I've skipped plenty of meals. Not because I couldn't afford it, but because I was too busy and didn't have time to eat lunch or something. It isn't going to kill you though. Seriously, where is the malnutrition, or the starvation? Show me someone with an emaciated stomach or something and I'll believe you when you say we have a hunger problem.

Also, I'm going to posit a guess here that the reason you couldn't afford food at the moment came down to some extremely poor decision making. Just saying.

At any rate, you may have been uncomfortable, but I'm guessing your life or health was never in danger.

HC, eat this and only for 6 days straight - One box of stag chili, one cup of rice, shredded jack cheese, tapatio hot sauce to taste. I lived in a house with 4 other guys because it was 300 dollars a month in rent but the ability to cook and have food not go rancid in the fridge made my diet like regexcellents but worse. I was lethargic, not always "with it", and always hungry. I had student loans that ate up a lot of my minimum wage income.

On the 7th day you can go get a burger or a burrito for 5 bucks because you earned it dude.

Actually, extremely poor circumstances where I couldnt capitalize on economies of scale along with some dubious life decisions were a culprit in that (a minimum wage sales job with a draw isn't really a decision as a necessity). My life is a lot better now but lo and behold I have actual empathy for people in bad spots because I lived it.

Regardless, why do you seem to want to punitively withhold food from people because of "choices" they made. I mean come on, stop trying to be a French Monarch here. I feel that if you can't imagine it, it doesnt exist, at least in your mind. Its really troubling that someone as bright as yourself is limited so much in this capacity.

[DinoDoc]

HC, eat this and only for 6 days straight - One box of stag chili, one cup of rice, shredded jack cheese, tapatio hot sauce to taste.

I've done a mixture of Spaghetti O's and Ramen Noodles before. Not really pleasant.

[MRT144]

I've done a mixture of Spaghetti O's and Ramen Noodles before. Not really pleasant.

The thing is, its not so much about being "near death" or anything. Its really about how it muddles cognition and you lack energy to do a lot of pretty normal things. It also is psychologically a mind **** thinking that you will never get out of this situation because how can you?

I really don't expect a lot of people, especially the mini-horatio algers here to understand but depression and hunger absolutely impair ability and talent. When I was in that situation I didnt want a hand out so I could drink malt liquor and play Civ II, I wanted a helping hand that would alleviate the boredom with life and the crap situation I was in even just a little bit.