There's Something Absolutely Wrong with what we do to Boys...

[Kidlicious]

Whereas uncritically accepting the notion that boys are dumber than girls of the same age isn't...?

The problem is that people think their feelings are more important than objective reality. So we get what we have in this thread. You don't feel that boys have problems? So what? The problem is your feelings. You are a misandrist. Your statement means jack ****! The objective reality is boys are failing in school and if girls were failing we would bend over backwards for them.

[Ban Kenobi]

The problem is it's impossible to have a productive conversation with a stark raving mad person with a victim mentality who is fixated on his past grudges.

[Kidlicious]

The problem is it's impossible to have a productive conversation with a stark raving mad person with a victim mentality who is fixated on his past grudges.

What's the connection between my relationship with my ex and boys failing in school. I guess you didn't get my point about the difference between your feelings and objective reality.

[Imran Siddiqui]

The problem is that people think their feelings are more important than objective reality.

Feelings are as, if not more, important than what people consider to be "objective reality". In a lot of ways, people's views of "objective reality" is highly conditioned on what their feelings are on some matter - for example, thinking that it is objective reality that there is some conspiracy against men due to one's feelings of being screwed over by women in the past.

The problem is it's impossible to have a productive conversation with a stark raving mad person with a victim mentality who is fixated on his past grudges.

QFT

[Colon™]

What's the connection between my relationship with my ex and boys failing in school. I guess you didn't get my point about the difference between your feelings and objective reality.

You know, no man is really going to blame for having a few misogynistic sentiments. However, there much better ways to be one than to support something as obnoxious as men's rights causes. Take a cue from Robert Altman, Charles Bukowski or James Bond.

[Kidlicious]

Feelings are as, if not more, important than what people consider to be "objective reality". In a lot of ways, people's views of "objective reality" is highly conditioned on what their feelings are on some matter - for example, thinking that it is objective reality that there is some conspiracy against men due to one's feelings of being screwed over by women in the past.

I'm talking about ability and honesty here not perceptions. We all have perceptions but its how we treat those perceptions that makes the difference. Some people are able to recognize that their feelings decieve them while others don't. You've now been confronted with the reality that boys are failing in school due to how they are taught. You've chosen ti go with your feelings that boys don't have problems. Again so what? You are a misandrist which explains your feelings. Your feelings don't mean anything.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I'm a boy. I did fantastically well in school.

OBJECTIVE REALITY!

[Kidlicious]

You know, no man is really going to blame for having a few misogynistic sentiments. However, there much better ways to be one than to support something as obnoxious as men's rights causes. Take a cue from Robert Altman, Charles Bukowski or James Bond.

I'm opposed to mysogyny.

[Kidlicious]

I'm a boy. I did fantastically well in school.

OBJECTIVE REALITY!

Is this serious?

[Ban Kenobi]

I'm a boy. I did fantastically well in school.

OBJECTIVE REALITY!

You're a girly boy then. Real men don't start reading before their tenth birthday and even then it's only so they can Google for porn. The school system doesn't endorse this because they hate boys.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Is this serious?

Stop going with your feelings over objective reality, girlyman!

[Guynemer]

Not just a girly man, he's a slave to women and the entire feminist agenda that has taken over civilization.

[Kidlicious]

Stop going with your feelings over objective reality, girlyman!

Thinking objectively is what has made Western Civilization great and so called empathy with people's feelings in the abscence of objective thinking is destroying it.

[Ban Kenobi]

Civilization is a feminist conspiracy. Concepts like agriculture, writing and not murdering random people are gay. Real men hunt, fish, and play the knockout game.

[Aeson]

I think the examples of men in the distant past who were allowed to show emotions were more restricted to that of nobility and upper classes and sometimes their "pets" ... who could get away with a lot due to birthright or position. Also, even in those cases it wasn't that men weren't expected to fill a certain role or be looked down upon ... it was just different roles. Imagine the poor brutish man in Arabic Cordoba who couldn't write poetry ... how they were shunned and scorned by high society ... why should we only care about the feelings of effeminate men?

The peasants who comprised most of the people likely were much more prone to being physically punished or outright killed if they were weak men. You can't really write much poetry if your father is going to whip you for not getting the fields plowed (especially when you're illiterate).