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    Oklahoma Drops National Guard Benefits For All Couples To Avoid Serving Same-Sex Couples
    BY ZACK FORD ON NOVEMBER 19, 2013 AT 3:07 PM

    Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin (R)
    CREDIT: AP/SUE OGROCKI
    Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin (R) announced earlier this month that state-owned National Guard facilities will no longer allow any married couples to apply for spousal benefits, regardless of whether they are same-sex or opposite-sex. The Supreme Court’s decision overturning the Defense of Marriage Act means that servicemembers with same-sex spouses are now eligible for federal benefits. Fallin’s unusual tactic is designed to avoid having to recognize those couples, which she asserts would violate Oklahoma’s constitutional amendment limiting marriage to one man and one woman:

    FALLIN: Oklahoma law is clear. The state of Oklahoma does not recognize same-sex marriages, nor does it confer marriage benefits to same-sex couples. The decision reached today allows the National Guard to obey Oklahoma law without violating federal rules or policies. It protects the integrity of our state constitution and sends a message to the federal government that they cannot simply ignore our laws or the will of the people.

    This decision directly contradicts an order from Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel ordering states to provide same-sex couples with the federal benefits they deserve under the law. All married couples will now have to travel to one of the five federal facilities in Oklahoma to apply for benefits. Incidentally, the state’s facilities were built almost entirely with federal funds and 90 percent of the Oklahoma Military Department — which includes the National Guard — is funded by the federal government.

    Fallin’s tactic mirrors other attempts to punish an entire group to avoid serving the gay community. When marriage equality came to the District of Columbia, Catholic Charities decided to stop offering partner benefits to all employees to avoid having to provide them to any employee’s same-sex spouse. In various states, Catholic Charities has also abandoned all adoption services to avoid having to provide them to same-sex couples.

    Schools have also employed this strategy to try to block gay-straight alliances from forming. In 2011, for example, Flour Bluff Independent School District in Corpus Christi, Texas considered banning all extracurricular clubs to avoid allowing a GSA to form.

    Oklahoma is not alone in defying Hagel’s orders. The Texas Military Force acknowledged this week that it will not allow same-sex couples to apply for a housing allowance at state-run National Guard facilities, having already turned away at least one couple. Mississippi, Louisiana, and Georgia have also refused to comply, but some states that previously had balked have begun complying, like West Virginia. A total of 29 states have constitutional amendments banning same-sex marriage, but most are complying with the federal recognition for purposes of the National Guard.
    Some states are also struggling in other ways with how to handle the federal government’s recognition of same-sex couples in the wake of DOMA. Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon (D) announced last week that same-sex couples could file their state taxes jointly, even though they won’t be eligible for state tax benefits. This has prompted one Missouri state lawmaker, Rep. Nick Marshall (R), to pursue impeachment proceedings against Nixon. Meanwhile, Virginia is among the states that have ordered same-sex couples to file their taxes separately.
    Way to piss off not only gay people, but also a lot of straight people, Governor Fallin.
    Last edited by MrFun; November 20, 2013, 11:20.
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    He's just trying to save money. Everybody likes lower taxes. Nobody likes lower benefits.
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    • #3
      Does this mean they'll save taxpayers a truckload of money instead of giving people freebies just because they got married?

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      • #4
        Change the benefits of married to benefits for procreating or adopting. Gain similar benefits where socially valuable behaviour is encouraged and ditch the DINKs!
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        • #5
          Ridding ourselves of discrimination against single folk

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          • #6
            Originally posted by pchang View Post
            He's just trying to save money. Everybody likes lower taxes. Nobody likes lower benefits.
            Who is "he?"
            A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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            • #7
              sexism
              genderless pronouns

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              • #8
                When I'm gone, I hope some of you people get all the things that you're asking for. Then you'll be ****ed and I can look down and laugh.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
                  When I'm gone, I hope some of you people get all the things that you're asking for. Then you'll be ****ed and I can look down and laugh.
                  Yep. Neal and I have an equal right to wear a ball and chain around our ankles just as much as you heteros.
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                  • #10
                    I thought you said it wasn't about benefits, Mr. Fun.
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                    • #11
                      He lives in the land of

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                      • #12
                        I support this.

                        Marriage
                        I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
                          When I'm gone, I hope some of you people get all the things that you're asking for. Then you'll be ****ed and I can look up and laugh.
                          Fixed.
                          To us, it is the BEAST.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
                            When I'm gone, I hope some of you people get all the things that you're asking for.
                            .
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                            • #15
                              Gays have destroyed marriage.
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