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  • #91
    I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful nature a slave to the law of sin
    Well said, Master Nikolai.
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    • #92
      You're a sorry excuse of a Christian yourself.
      Indeed. When we have such shining examples of God's benevolence to the world in Gribbler, how can I possibly compare?
      Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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      • #93
        Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post


        (I couldn't find the pat pat smiley - I guess this will have to do)
        I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

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        • #94
          Anyone care to tell me what I am supposed to make of this?
          No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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          • #95
            50,000 browsers and $634 million (to start)

            We paid $634 million for the Obamacare sites and all we got was this lousy 404
            By Andrew Couts — October 8, 2013

            Obamacare-sites-404

            It’s been one full week since the flagship technology portion of the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) went live. And since that time, the befuddled beast that is Healthcare.gov has shutdown, crapped out, stalled, and mis-loaded so consistently that its track record for failure is challenged only by Congress.

            The site itself, which apparently underwent major code renovations over the weekend, still rejects user logins, fails to load drop-down menus and other crucial components for users that successfully gain entrance, and otherwise prevents uninsured Americans in the 36 states it serves from purchasing healthcare at competitive rates – Healthcare.gov’s primary purpose. The site is so busted that, as of a couple days ago, the number of people that successfully purchased healthcare through it was in the “single digits,” according to the Washington Post.

            We, the taxpayers, seem to have forked up more than $634 million of the federal purse to build the digital equivalent of a rock.

            The reason for this nationwide headache apparently stems from poorly written code, which buckled under the heavy influx of traffic that its engineers and administrators should have seen coming. But the fact that Healthcare.gov can’t do the one job it was built to do isn’t the most infuriating part of this debacle – it’s that we, the taxpayers, seem to have forked up more than $634 million of the federal purse to build the digital equivalent of a rock.

            The exact cost to build Healthcare.gov, according to U.S. government records, appears to have been $634,320,919, which we paid to a company you probably never heard of: CGI Federal. The company originally won the contract back in 2011, but at that time, the cost was expected to run “up to” $93.7 million – still a chunk of change, but nothing near where it ended up.

            Given the complicated nature of federal contracts, it’s difficult to make a direct comparison between the cost to develop Healthcare.gov and the amount of money spent building private online businesses. But for the sake of putting the monstrous amount of money into perspective, here are a few figures to chew on: Facebook, which received its first investment in June 2004, operated for a full six years before surpassing the $600 million mark in June 2010. Twitter, created in 2006, managed to get by with only $360.17 million in total funding until a $400 million boost in 2011. Instagram ginned up just $57.5 million in funding before Facebook bought it for (a staggering) $1 billion last year. And LinkedIn and Spotify, meanwhile, have only raised, respectively, $200 million and $288 million.

            Healthcare.gov errorGovernment has a long history of spending money unnecessarily. But in an age when the U.S is home to the world’s largest, most successful Internet companies, how is it possible that we can’t even manage to build a functional website without blowing through hundreds of millions of dollars?

            The best answer I’ve found comes from the Department of Better Technology, a private company that builds software for governments – a competitor, in other words, to CGI Federal, which specializes in building software solutions for major industry sectors including defense, energy and environment, financial and, of course, healthcare. Still, biased though it may be, the argument makes a lot of sense.

            As one of the company’s authors wrote in a recent blog post, the failure of Healthcare.gov isn’t because the people in our government are inept mouth-breathers who regard the work as a meaningless burden, but because the factors that play into which companies receive government contracts, a process called “procurement,” are fundamentally broken.

            “Contracting officers – people inside of the government in charge of selecting who gets to do what work – are afraid of their buys being contested by people who didn’t get selected,” writes the author. “They’re also afraid of things going wrong down the line inside of a procurement, so they select vendors with a lot of ‘federal experience’ to do the work.”

            When things still go wrong, they simply throw ‘more money at the same people who caused the problem to fix the problem.’

            And when things still go wrong, they simply throw “more money at the same people who caused the problem to fix the problem.”

            Considering the frustrating bunch we have in Congress at the moment, this assessment seems particularly believable.

            Unlike some Americans, I actually want the Obamacare exchanges to succeed. I’ve given the state-specific options a try (there are 15 of them, including Washington D.C.’s) and they seem to greatly simplify the process of buying healthcare. And the rates do appear to come in far lower than what many people without health insurance from an employer have had to bear until now. It’s not government-run healthcare. There are no death panels. And, from what I can tell, the world will not end if more people have health insurance – quite the opposite, in fact.

            What I cannot stand is a nation that has vast technological resources in its citizenry spending $600 million of our collective money to slap together a product that, thus far, has only managed to waste people’s precious minutes. So the next time our government comes up with any bright idea that relies upon a massive website, let’s all be sure to ask how they plan to build it. Because the standard operating procedure at the moment is just plain sick.
            Healthcare.gov, the primary Web portal for Obamacare's online exchanges, seems to have cost more than $500 million to build. Wait, what?!
            No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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            • #96
              It's a javascript file, why would you be looking at a javascript file?
              Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
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              • #97
                People are saying the code is whacky. I'd like to know if it's really as bad as they are saying.
                No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                • #98
                  Oh right. Yeah, it's ****.
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                  • #99
                    Most of it is error codes and information, it seems a strange place to store that stuff. They've coded it to need as few return trips to the server as possible which I assume is deliberate.

                    It's actually not that bad, it's just clunky. It's not how you'd normally do it but they are probably doing it on purpose to reduce the load on the backend as much as possible, which in a system expected to get heavy usage isn't that unreasonable.

                    It's probably not as bad as people think, but there might be some howling code errors, I haven't looked in that much detail.
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                    • Would you pay $634 million for the coding you saw, Mike?
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                      • No but anyone who thinks the $634m is for that javascript file is a blithering idiot.
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                        Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
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                        • Gov't IT procurement everywhere is appalling though, ours is similarly horrendous.
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                          • Originally posted by MikeH View Post
                            No but anyone who thinks the $634m is for that javascript file is a blithering idiot.
                            I'm talking about the entire thing. It's ridiculous those sites cost much to set up and this is the result.
                            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                            • Originally posted by MikeH View Post
                              Gov't everywhere is appalling though, ours is similarly horrendous.
                              FTFY
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                              • Originally posted by MikeH View Post
                                No but anyone who thinks the $634m is for that javascript file is a blithering idiot.
                                Hilarious:
                                If you’re trying to access your Obamacare account on Healthcare.gov, you may be told your password needs to be reset.

                                “All passwords were deleted for existing accounts as part of the upgrade process,” a call center representative told CNN’s Elizabeth Cohen. The representative said users experiencing issues must call in to reset their password; it cannot be done online.
                                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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