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  • #31
    Originally posted by PLATO View Post
    The "Special Housing Unit" at Fort Levenworth is 23 hours a day confinement...so yeah, along with the other items you mentioned, I guess he is suffering. Probably not as much as 13 families who would have to know that everytime they paid their taxes that some tiny fraction of that was going to support the ****er who gunned down they sons/husbands/brothers/fathers. But hey...what do they matter?
    You're talking paralyzed and living in a box alone for three years--so far. If that guy isn't totally mentally broken by now, it's only a matter of time. As for whether he's suffering as much as the bereaved, it's kind of hard to quantify this sort of thing. Apples and oranges. If you're going for maximum anguish here, there's no guarantee that he will suffer at all, post-execution. The execution itself will be as close to painless as science can manage, and likely delayed for so many years by appeals that it will not differ much from his life expectancy in his sensory-deprivation box.

    The relative deterrent effect is far more important IMO. As suicidal jihadists tend not to be afraid of death, I'd say it's better to keep him alive. Probably less humane, though.
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    • #32
      Is his motive still a mystery to the government? Whatever could have been the cause of this brazen act of "workplace violence"?
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Elok View Post
        and likely delayed for so many years by appeals that it will not differ much from his life expectancy in his sensory-deprivation box.
        I'm curious. Assuming that he gets the death penalty, what's the appeals process like under the UCMJ?
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        • #34
          Oh, I forgot courts-martial work by different rules. Maybe it'll be quick, then. But my larger point stands: if you're feeling vengeful, it's hard to say whether you should root for life or death.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
            I'm curious. Assuming that he gets the death penalty, what's the appeals process like under the UCMJ?
            Not sure but he can still appeal to the supreme court. The US military hasn't executed anyone since 1961 so who the hell knows what would happen.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
              Not sure but he can still appeal to the supreme court. The US military hasn't executed anyone since 1961 so who the hell knows what would happen.
              ... and the last one executed was black. Is Hasan dark enough?

              The US government has been very careful not to call Hasan a terrorist, so his execution won't be a martyrdom.
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              • #37
                the last one executed was black. Is Hasan dark enough?
                You'd support execution if Hasan were white?
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                • #38
                  The last execution by the U.S. Military was the hanging of Army PFC John A. Bennett, on April 13, 1961, for the rape and attempted murder of an 11-year-old Austrian girl
                  WTF difference does it make as to his color?
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
                    WTF difference does it make as to his color?
                    He (Army PFC John A. Bennett) spent six years awaiting execution — “six years,” observed the Los Angeles Times, “in which six other black soldiers were hanged while all four of the white men — many of them multiple murderers — were saved.”
                    I'm against government sanctioned executions for anyone; however, the US does like killing blacks especially back in the good ol' days... Hasan isn't very dark.
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                    • #40
                      I want to say this in a way that's perfectly clear. I don't give a royal rats ass the color of the man. I draw the line at radicals of any nature that would carry out such an event.
                      If a white Methodist did what Hasan did, I would want him to pay the same price. A terrorist is a terrorist and you deal with terrorists in a uniform manner.
                      The difference in Hasan's case is that he took an oath to defend the United States. Clearly, he failed in this obligation.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                        Because he's still alive now.
                        Then your god must not be done making the families of the victims suffer.
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                        • #42
                          Why did this trial have to take four years? Seems like a pretty open and shut case to me.

                          Nice to see that the nastiest and most vitriolic people posting in this thread (in fact on Poly as a whole), claim to be the most fervent Christians...

                          Funny to think that your Islamic equivalents are the very people that commit the sorts of crimes that Hasan himself has committed.

                          Still, at least Sloww has grown as a human being by shying away from the death penalty - so there is hope for him yet.

                          Seriously, when the extremists on both sides learn a little humanity and respect, perhaps we can all learn to live together in peace and harmony...
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                          • #43
                            I'm against government sanctioned executions for anyone
                            So then WTF does color have to do with it?
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                            • #44
                              Then your god must not be done making the families of the victims suffer.
                              "Life is pain, anyone who says otherwise is selling something".
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                                "Life is pain, anyone who says otherwise is selling something".
                                Is that Jesus, Lewis, or Chesterson?
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