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  • #46
    Originally posted by gribbler View Post
    "Evolutionary creationism" isn't a thing. If you think God caused the big bang you're not a creationist. Not every issue has to have a middle ground for people to waffle about in.
    It is most definitely a thing. Better poll companies know this:

    Which of the following statements comes closest to your views on the origin and development of human beings – [ROTATED: human beings have evolved over millions of years from other forms of life and God guided this process, human beings have evolved over millions of years from other forms of life, but God had no part in this process, or God created human beings in their present form exactly the way the Bible describes it]?


    Not every issue has to be black or white.
    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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    • #47
      To be fair, I suspect a lot of people who profess to accept the evolution theory don't have a proper understanding of how it works either, hence popular notions such as devolution and the missing link.
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      • #48
        Originally posted by MikeH View Post
        Yeah, I don't understand why the religious debate has got so dumb in some quarters recently. It's a new phenomenon.
        Actually, I'd say it's pretty old. I blame Galileo. That snarky jackass.
        No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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        • #49
          i thought this thread was about ray charles
          To us, it is the BEAST.

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          • #50
            I like the Willie Nelson version too.
            No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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            • #51
              I've said this before, believing in creationism really doesn't hurt anyone. All of the people who actually need to know evolutionary biology do know it and accept its truthfulness. It's not like homeopathic medicine, in fact, of all the common anti-science beliefs it's probably the most harmless.

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              • #52
                Except it isn't in any way harmless when it comes to politicians making laws that require an acceptance of evolution.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
                  I've said this before, believing in creationism really doesn't hurt anyone.
                  false

                  at minimum, it hurts me
                  because i have to put up with stupid ****ing people
                  To us, it is the BEAST.

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                  • #54
                    ...and that's a price we're willing to pay.
                    No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by PLATO View Post
                      Certainly open to debate, but why ridicule? In matters of faith, divine actions may not have a basis in science or rational thought. "Who are we to question the gods?" Debate the point from whatever point of view you choose to believe in, but there should be no room for ridicule when dealing with people's personal religious beliefs.
                      I don't give a pass for "religious beliefs" that are irrational. I don't care what the rational is for silly thought.

                      This isn't an anti-Christian thing.

                      The natives in my part of the world believe we are all living on the back of a giant turtle. It's farcical.
                      "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                      "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
                        Why are we elevating everything to conform to the rubric of "rational thought". Especially when more and more scientific evidence is coming out that we come to our decisions emotionally and then add post-hoc rational basis to it.

                        I think our emotions are just as valid and important as rational thought & reason.
                        You owe me an apology.

                        Until then, **** off.
                        "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                        "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by The Mad Monk View Post
                          ...and that's a price we're willing to pay.
                          WHATEVER HAPPN TO COMPASSIONATE CONSERVATISM?
                          To us, it is the BEAST.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by kentonio View Post
                            Except it isn't in any way harmless when it comes to politicians making laws that require an acceptance of evolution.
                            I assume you're referring to politicians requiring the teaching of "alternative theories?"

                            Do any school districts actually do this?

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Sava View Post
                              WHATEVER HAPPN TO COMPASSIONATE CONSERVATISM?
                              Well we realize they have to put up with you... so we're being compassionate in return
                              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Wezil View Post
                                I don't give a pass for "religious beliefs" that are irrational. I don't care what the rational is for silly thought.

                                This isn't an anti-Christian thing.

                                The natives in my part of the world believe we are all living on the back of a giant turtle. It's farcical.
                                I had no idea that so many noted persons are natives of your part of the world.
                                No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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