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 'Creationism' is now a term which has been co-opted to mean the Earth is really young and evolution doesn't happen at all. It's done sensible conversation on the subject no end of harm.Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
 Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
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 From what I hear on the news it's only 1% of you doing the work, the rest of you just laze around being poor. Your 1% must be totes amazeballs.Originally posted by The Mad Monk View PostYeah, what are the rest of you doing wrong? You should be leaving gullible folks like us in the dust. Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
 Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
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 You: "Okay, Mr. creationist...How does your belief explain the scientific fact that the world is older than 4000 years?"Originally posted by MikeH View PostI would not mock and ridicule someone who thinks the Christian creation myth is a metaphor that fits quite well with the history of the universe as we know it.
 
 I would mock and ridicule someone who 'believed' in the face of all the contrary evidence that the earth is ~4000 years old.
 
 One is a perfectly reasonable belief, one is ludicrous.
 
 Creationist: "Uhh...the scientist are lying!"
 
 You: "****ing moron."
 
 Okay...maybe sometimes. "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003 "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003
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 And on the same level "Evolution" in these contexts has been co-opted to mean God doesn't factor at all.Originally posted by MikeH View Post'Creationism' is now a term which has been co-opted to mean the Earth is really young and evolution doesn't happen at all. It's done sensible conversation on the subject no end of harm.
 
 Therefore, Creationist Evolution folks are in a pickle. Can't argue yes to either stereotype.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
 - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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 "Evolutionary creationism" isn't a thing. If you think God caused the big bang you're not a creationist. Not every issue has to have a middle ground for people to waffle about in.Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View PostThis is what we'd refer to as a dumb poll question. And also, how British (as it seems) are as much into knee jerk reactions without caring about the underlying facts as much as the people they disdain.
 
 If the question was Creation or Evolution, how are Evolutionary Creationists supposed to respond? I can pick either one of those if you asked me an either/or.
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 If God created the universe by the big bang, then that is not a view point that God created the Universe?Originally posted by gribbler View Post"Evolutionary creationism" isn't a thing. If you think God caused the big bang you're not a creationist. Not every issue has to have a middle ground for people to waffle about in. "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003 "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003
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 Maybe he created it last week and all our memories and science are just his way of messing with us.Originally posted by gribbler View PostMaybe God created everything 6000 years ago, but his views have evolved over time.    "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003 "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003
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 Yep.Originally posted by The Mad Monk View PostWe are.  "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003 "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003
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 Evolutionary creationism would be a much more useful term if creationists could understand that evolution and abiogenesis are separate things, and stop using evolution as a catchall term. Abiogenesis vs Creationism is a much stronger debate for them than Evolution vs Creatism which they already lost.
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 Originally posted by The Mad Monk View PostWe are.  Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
 Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
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 What a silly belief.Originally posted by PLATO View Post Fair enough, but I have a God given right to believe you are wrong! Fair enough, but I have a God given right to believe you are wrong! “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.” “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
 "Capitalism ho!"
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 Yeah, I don't understand why the religious debate has got so dumb in some quarters recently. It's a new phenomenon.Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
 Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
 We've got both kinds
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