I think any beliefs not founded in rational thought are open to question and possibly ridicule.
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Originally posted by MOBIUS'trivially disproven bull****'Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
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Originally posted by Wezil View PostI think any beliefs not founded in rational thought are open to question and possibly ridicule.
Now...to say that "God guided evolution to the creation of man in seven days" is a belief that doesn't have a definite value for what a "day" is. "God created man from dust" doesn't have a value for time frame. So much of religion is subject to undefined base principles. By some interpretations, science and creationism could exist simultaneously. It seems to me that it is far better to say "Okay...how does your religion explain "X"?" than to say "You are a ****ing moron because science says this!""I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003
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Originally posted by PLATO View PostCertainly open to debate, but why ridicule? In matters of faith, divine actions may not have a basis in science or rational thought. "Who are we to question the gods?" Debate the point from whatever point of view you choose to believe in, but there should be no room for ridicule when dealing with people's personal religious beliefs.
You could argue that no-one should be ridiculed for any belief they happen to hold of course.
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Originally posted by kentonio View PostWhy should religious beliefs be treated any differently from any other beliefs? Why does someone believing in a giant invisible guy in the sky get a respect that we'd never give to someone who believes a giant squirrel called Percy is stalking them? I've always been a bit confused by what the distinction is.
You could argue that no-one should be ridiculed for any belief they happen to hold of course."I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003
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Originally posted by PLATO View PostNo, I believe it is a different argument because you are dealing with "the divine" (for lack of a better term).
Originally posted by PLATO View PostReligion, by its very nature involves unprovable assumptions ("faith" if you will). This separates it from other beliefs
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Originally posted by MikeH View PostI find it sad not funny. 46% of the people in the worlds biggest economy, and one of the most advanced countries on earth, believes some trivially disproven bull****? Depressing.No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.
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Originally posted by PLATO View PostClose.
I do believe that people are entitled to their beliefs and should be able to have them without ridicule.
I think MOBIUS is on the right track (did I actually say that!?!) Discuss the evidence...do away with the ridicule.“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
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Originally posted by The Mad Monk View PostYeah, what are the rest of you doing wrong? You should be leaving gullible folks like us in the dust.
Also, those countries that have nearly removed religion from their politics have been catching up at unprecedented rates. Those that still struggle with religious issues, including the US, have been stalling or declining. I'm never surprised at how little you know.Last edited by DaShi; August 9, 2013, 10:58.“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
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Originally posted by kentonio View Posthttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...p_ref=politics
When we hear about Americans in the South believing about creationism I think there's still a tendency in Europe for us to go 'Nahhhh, surely they must be joking? Surely it must just be a few religious wackos? Surely?'. Guess not.
If the question was Creation or Evolution, how are Evolutionary Creationists supposed to respond? I can pick either one of those if you asked me an either/or.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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Originally posted by DaShi View PostI believe in my God-given right to ridicule people for their beliefs!"I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003
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Originally posted by PLATO View PostBy some interpretations, science and creationism could exist simultaneously. It seems to me that it is far better to say "Okay...how does your religion explain "X"?" than to say "You are a ****ing moron because science says this!"
I would mock and ridicule someone who 'believed' in the face of all the contrary evidence that the earth is ~4000 years old.
One is a perfectly reasonable belief, one is ludicrous.Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
We've got both kinds
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Originally posted by Wezil View PostI think any beliefs not founded in rational thought are open to question and possibly ridicule.
I think our emotions are just as valid and important as rational thought & reason.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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Originally posted by ColdWizard View PostThe survey was conducted by automated telephone interviews. And the question was:“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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