A Brief History of Hauldren Collider

[BlackCat]

Well, considering the number of bathrooms that are available for the family members, I don't think that they are in the poor segment

[Sava]

I love how the Kuciwalker bathroom meme also applies to HC.

[MikeH]

I'm sorry, I don't understand your question. If we gave them food or healthcare instead of money, what would they have to spend on that short term emergency? Clearly the emergency needs to take precedence, or they wouldn't spend their money on it...

You understand that what you're saying here is that if you give them money then they have the option to choose to go without food right?

[Egbert]

Or transportation and fuel is taxed to make it really expensive.

And it's not needed. I didn't get a car until I was 34, even with a well paying full time job, commuting 10 miles each way. It just isn't required for most people here (unless you live in the countryside, but who does these days?)

I can answer your question for you Mike. Country people live in the countryside.

This post really is useful for you. I await your thanks.

[Elok]

A decent-sized segment of the U.S. population still lives in the countryside. And likely will for a long time, until we develop very advanced farmer-robots.

[MikeH]

19.3% in the US, 18.9% in the UK, and decreasing in both.

Anyway, the problem remains, if you give money rather than food they only get a choice whether to fix the car and starve or not fix the car.

That transport emergency leaves you ****ed in either system. Which is why I don't think it's a situation that favours one scheme or the other. They both handle it badly.

[Hauldren Collider]

You understand that what you're saying here is that if you give them money then they have the option to choose to go without food right?

They could, but I don't know why they would. What exactly is your objection to letting people choose how to spend money? We aren't soviets.

[regexcellent]

19.3% in the US, 18.9% in the UK, and decreasing in both.

Large parts of exurban America are considered "suburban" due to proximity to cities but really are rural. I live pretty much on the edge of the suburbs--there are farms less than a mile from my apartment--but those farms are considered suburbs by the census because they are within the Rochester metro statistical area or somesuch.

[The Mad Monk]

Still, giving them the money rather than food stamps doesn't solve the problem. It means they are empowered to choose whether to fix the car, die of an infection or starve to death that week I guess.

Preferably, there's some balancing of the three that prevents the last two without crippling the first.

[The Mad Monk]

One of the guys I work with was detained (not technically arrested) by cops in the states because he tried to walk across the road from his hotel to the convention centre ~ 100m, not busy roads.

He actually has a sight disability so he wasn't legally allowed to drive in the UK, but the cops couldn't understand why he was trying to walk not drive and thought he must be up to no good.

Bizarre.

I would be interested in knowing what road. Limited access roads are not meant to be crossed on foot -- that is to say, the drivers are going fast and DO NOT expect pedestrians.

[The Mad Monk]

You understand that what you're saying here is that if you give them money then they have the option to choose to go without food right?

Most (MOST!) of the people in need here know what their needs are, and in fact are in a better position to know them than the set of regulations that make up the food stamp program or the bureaucrats that enforce them. Food stamps and similar programs infantilize an entire class of people for the sake of a relatively few abusers, who already know how to get around the system anyway. It futher criminalizes those who legitimately need the funds for something more urgent, but are forced to game the system the way the bad apples do to free them up.

[Tuberski]

I'll bet the history of HC is slightly more interesting than Utah state history.

ACK!

[DaShi]

Most (MOST!) of the people in need here know what their needs are, and in fact are in a better position to know them than the set of regulations that make up the food stamp program or the bureaucrats that enforce them. Food stamps and similar programs infantilize an entire class of people for the sake of a relatively few abusers, who already know how to get around the system anyway. It futher criminalizes those who legitimately need the funds for something more urgent, but are forced to game the system the way the bad apples do to free them up.

Awesome. There must be a plethora of evidence to support this.

Google....

What? Nothing? How surprising!

[BlackCat]

Awesome. There must be a plethora of evidence to support this.

Google....

What? Nothing? How surprising!

Butb there are - it's just called jails. This is the ultimate public healthcare system. People gets housing, clothing and are fed appropriately

Actually, not giving people healtcare, foodstamps etc. just makes way more people to join this perfect system

[DaShi]

Yes, that's the solution!