Republicans continue to eat their own

[Aeson]

If they want to be together - they can be together in their home country. If the other party feels so strongly, then they should go with them.

Just because you're so cavalier about abandoning your family doesn't mean that everyone has such disregard for the value of their loved ones.

[Aeson]

The root of this disagreement has nothing to do with America, but with the fact that you don't believe in national sovereignty.

The root of the disagreement between you and I is that you're too stupid to understand what I've said and so are arguing against a strawman.

[Ben Kenobi]

Just because you're so cavalier about abandoning your family doesn't mean that everyone has such disregard for the value of their loved ones.

Right, I'm here because I'm away from my loved ones. Interesting theory.

[Ben Kenobi]

The root of the disagreement between you and I is that you're too stupid to understand what I've said and so are arguing against a strawman.

Do you believe that nations should be formed to represent peoples and that every group of peoples should have their own nation?

[DaShi]

Right, I'm here because I'm away from my loved ones. Interesting theory.

Ben has good point. No one loves him.

[DaShi]

Do you believe that nations should be formed to represent peoples and that every group of peoples should have their own nation?

Do you believe that a woman should be able to make decisions about her own body and not have the state decide for her?

[Ben Kenobi]

Ben has good point. No one loves him.

Hu's on first.

[DaShi]

Hu's gone. That's what Xi said.

[Ben Kenobi]

Do you believe that a woman should be able to make decisions about her own body and not have the state decide for her?

Absolutely - which is why a chaste woman shouldn't be forced to pay for other woman's contraception. I'm sure that goes over very well with them to be paying for other women to **** around.

[DaShi]

Absolutely - which is why a chaste woman shouldn't be forced to pay for other woman's contraception. I'm sure that goes over very well with them to be paying for other women to **** around.

Good to know that you are now in favor of abortion. This is a positive development.

[Ben Kenobi]

Good to know that you are now in favor of abortion. This is a positive development.

woman should be able to make decisions about her own body

Pregnant women don't have 4 eyes. Two people there - mother and child. Yes, I believe a woman should have control over her own body. That, of course, doesn't extend to killing other people.

[Aeson]

Do you believe that nations should be formed to represent peoples and that every group of peoples should have their own nation?

Every group of peoples can't have their own nation. It would be impossible in practice, and only theoretically possible in a hypothetical case where every existent person only identified with a single grouping (that group could be many groups so long as they had the exact same makeup) where all other members anyone identified with the group also identified themselves with the group and no other exclusive groups. Then all peoples of each and every divergent group would need to be geographically segregated already.

Ignoring that impossibility, I think people should be able to decide as groups. I don't necessarily think there's anything special about a "nation" over a "city", "state", "family" or even "individual" to decide their own fate. The only real difference is that nations are much more powerful and able to project their will onto others, and so have become the defacto grouping when it comes to many things like protection from other groups.

In any case, I think I (and anyone else) should be able to call any given decision a given group makes stupid or unjust if it happens to be, or be done in a way that is stupid or unjust.

The person who risks their life in the desert on the off chance they'll be able to find a way to feed their family doing a necessary job in our nation that we promote as a beacon of opportunity and freedom ... almost entirely occupied by decendents of immigrants ... isn't allowed in our country in a legal manner. But you are. Basically because the nation you originate from is predominantly white people our racists can better identify with. Our immigration laws are stupid and unjust.

[Aeson]

Ben has good point. No one loves him.

Thank you for this useful post.

[Aeson]

Right, I'm here because I'm away from my loved ones. Interesting theory.

Just because you don't love them doesn't mean they aren't your family.

[Aeson]

There are just laws, and then there are unjust laws.

I could marry Net and bring her to the US, where she is almost assured of a pathway to US citizenship. The same option doesn't exist for homosexual couples. You are a bigot to support such homophobic laws