Explosions at Boston Marathon

[Dinner]

Alex can find a conspiracy in a non working toilet.

Very true.

Back to Sava's post, which I have been thinking about more. Sava claimed that other than it happening to be tax day there was nothing else to suggest the possibility of this being an attack by right wing extremists. I agree that there is no hard evidence and we'll have to wait to find out who actually did it to find out what motivated them but that said there is more than just the fact that it was tax day as a hint at a possible motivation.

-There is the fact that Post-Newtown massacre Massachusetts passed strong new gun control legislation which very publicly enraged many of the gun nuts on the far right.

-There is the fact that the particular last mile of the race was dedicated to the Sandy Hook victims and was being used as a fund raiser for additional gun control measures and that several of the Sandy Hook Families were reported in the media as going to attend the event; those are people the conspiracy nuts think are conspiring with Obama to steal their guns.

-It was tax day which is a date every right wing nutjob hates and uses for a rallying cry to action.

-Finally it is a city in a state which the die hard right wing extremists absolutely loath because it continues to be rich and highly successful despite all of their ideological talking points. Their two favorite states to hate are Massachusetts and California.

Again, none of that is conclusive of anything and we don't know if those facts motivated the attacker or not but it isn't fair to say there is nothing which wouldn't have made the event a tempting target for a right wing domestic terrorist. I suppose we will know in time.

Edit: Oh, I forgot! The gun nuts love to use the NRA talking point claiming massacres can be brought about without using guns therefor there is no need for gun control of any sort. Yes, I could see someone trying to prove a point (especially if they were deranged about Sandy Hook as so many Alex Jones listeners are, thinking it a conspiracy) by carrying out a mass killing out not using a gun. "See! All those people were killed despite Massachusetts new gun control law!" Ignoring that one untrained gunman killed two dozen or more in five minutes with an AR-15 while this bomber only managed to kill three with all his advanced planning.

[Sava]

I seem to recall a biography of McVeigh saying that he picked that day because of Waco.

[Sava]

oerdin, you really piss me off sometimes

[Docfeelgood]

I seem to recall a biography of McVeigh saying that he picked that day because of Waco.

[Dinner]

I had trolled with this before (), but it seems more relevant here.

http://www.economist.com/node/21560566

If it does turn out to be a domestic terrorist, it's a shame that partisan politics caused the very people who may have caught this early to be cut.

The FBI has repeatedly warned that since Obama has been elected there has been a surge in right wing militia groups and racist hate groups threatening violence. Republicans didn't like the implications of that, especially as they were busy actively trying to court these groups and pander to them, so they attacked the FBI for their reports and killed funding for any efforts to track or identify violent right wing groups with in the country. Given how there have been dozens of violent right wing attacks in this country every year since then there is no doubt in my mind those Republican politicians have blood on their hands no matter who was behind the tax day bombing.

[Sava]

I still remember watching events unfold that day. I was in junior high. For some reason, we had a TV in the room and were watching it live during class.

[Alexander's Horse]

all I can say is that attack was eerily like attacks I saw in Afghanistan - almost like a replay or rewind to another time in my life - raising another possibility - functioning but disgruntled vet, or even maybe refugee or migrant, with PTSD

[Docfeelgood]

[Hauldren Collider]

I still remember watching events unfold that day. I was in junior high. For some reason, we had a TV in the room and were watching it live during class.

For me it was 9/11. I was only in elementary school at the time--3rd grade, but I knew something was up because a bunch of kids went home early and there were cryptic messages on the PA, and all the teachers looked really upset. The administration decided not to tell us anything but as soon as I got home my mom was super upset, I can't remember if she was crying, but the news was on the television in the living room and I saw the towers collapsing. It was the far and away scariest thing I had seen in my life up to that point. I think I had nightmares about being in a collapsing building that night.

[Docfeelgood]

I had just got home off the night shift from work on both accounts.


I was in elementary school when Watergate happened.

[Dinner]

I remember the OKC bombing too, Sava. The local news truck which arrived to film one side of the building completely gone with the other still standing with the insides hanging out, well, the reporter was completely at a lose for words and the anchor back at the news station was trying to talk her through it. 9/11 is another one I remember like yesterday.

[Sava]

For me it was 9/11. I was only in elementary school at the time--3rd grade, but I knew something was up because a bunch of kids went home early and there were cryptic messages on the PA, and all the teachers looked really upset. The administration decided not to tell us anything but as soon as I got home my mom was super upset, I can't remember if she was crying, but the news was on the television in the living room and I saw the towers collapsing. It was the far and away scariest thing I had seen in my life up to that point. I think I had nightmares about being in a collapsing building that night.

Yeah. I remember my dad was at work and called my mom. She said "turn on the tv, there was a plane crash at the WTC"

I turned it on and saw the first tower was hit. I saw the second plane hit live. It was surreal.

This is such a strange and new phenomenon in human history... watching this stuff as it happens on TV. And it's really just the beginning.

Can you imagine what it will be like in a few years? 4k TV is coming soon. I'd say we are 2-3 years away from 4k content on TV. Resolutions will get higher. I don't suspect that Oculus Rift thing will be more than a fad. But new technologies like that that change or improve the way we experience content is almost mind-blowing.

Imagine things like that if/when we have hologram TV.

Or straight up matrix style in your brain viewing. That may be science fiction. But still, image quality is improving fast.

[Sava]

I had just got home off the night shift from work on both accounts.


I was in elementary school when Watergate happened.

you old bastard
were you in preschool when they announced lincoln was shot?

[Docfeelgood]

that was Kennedy

[Sava]

but wasn't his butler named lincoln?
and lincoln's butler was kennedy?

COINCIDENCE?
I THINK NOT