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    My dear Apolyton internet friends,

    topic might be uplifting but ... it's my old nemesis who is back again. For those who have missed, I was diagnosed with brain cancer back in 2010. It was not the worst kind, and had relatively low gradus, and it was caught fairly early and it was positioned in a favourable place inside my nutty head.

    The problem is, it's not only back, it's twice the size it originally was. I can't express the horror I'm dealing with. It is like that scene from the shining, where all that blood is coming from the elevators and behind the walls and that kid is scared with his mouth open. That, but slowly burning, like an African bush war. Just sucks all my energy with its horror. Daily. I have to look into the eyes of my little kids, aged 1 and 3, who don't have a clue of what's going on, playing and smiling and laughing, screaming daddy daddy with such joy... ****ing breaks my heart. I will have to talk to them about it... that daddy will be leaving some day and won't come back. How the hell do I explain that, or talk about that? I feel it's important though. And I have to... I can't just keep hiding it. 3 years and still running, I'm a mess inside. Scarred, irreversible damage to my emotional well being. My goal is to not die too early. I think it's wrong that my kids will become fatherless. It pains me to no end. It burns my heart to think how they try to understand it all, how they won't, and how their life will be affected by this fact.

    Of course I will do my best to remedy this, so that the impact will be minimal, so that we will do as much as possible now. But needless to say it is not an easy thing to do.

    One of the difficult things to deal with is the medical staff - undeniably excellent experts - who have not disclosed important information with me. First, as I went to hear the bad news, we spent 5 minutes debating whether it's brain cancer. My doctor argued that it really isn't, because there is no such thing. If a benign tumor kills you, or if you live longer with a malignant tumor, then what is brain cancer anyway. POINT TAKEN, but it frustrated me that we spent a long time redefining things, arguing about semantics. It's all about making me feel better, and not thinkign I have this thing called brain cancer. But I do have it! I know I have it and redefining things won't make a difference... it does, however, break our trusting relationship. Other examples soon followed: I found out that it had been progressing all this time. Albeit slowly, but it had been progressing. I thought I was cancer free. The way they said it was that there are no significant changes. Meaning no significant changes to the situation earlier, when they compare images. The science behind it is that you look two images next to each other. Are they significantly different? If not, then no significant changes. However, the tolerance for them was few millimeters. So, now my tumor is 5 cm long, since every iteration of images did not seem to bring _significant_ changes, but of course accumulated to the current situation: twice the size and considerable enough to have to bring it to me and think about radiation therapy or probably try some other drugs first.

    ****ing science? Seriously, is this the level we're at? And the communication? I can handle facts, in fact I want them and I'm entitled to know. I would not have taken a mortgage knowing that my tumor was progressing, I thought I was cancer free the whole time. ****. I wanted to take the whole room down, and everyone in it (with fists I remind you), they were not telling me the truth. All this time they knew it was progressing, yet they didn't tell me! What *******s!

    So now what? I don't know. I took the rest of the week off from work. I'm thinking of a new game plan. I'm trying to come up with a strategy, a battle plan. I can't trust those *******s anymore. They were clear about being eager to fry my brain with radiation therapy. They even said how well a patient can take it, it's just the brains that can't take it. I mean... if the brains can't take it... then how can the patient take it? I don't get it. Just like I don't get the state of the art "these images look pretty much same to me!" and yet it's now 5 cm long. How did it take us by surprise? It accumulated to that, it's not a sneak attack. Seems to me what they're interested is balancing out the care of me to their budget. That is , they truly want the best for me, but they have like a hammer, and another hammer that is shaped differently, when you're supposed to have a tool kit to choose from or just try out.

    Just rambling, but I'm pretty desperate. It's war.
    In da butt.
    "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
    THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
    "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

  • #2
    Pekka, I know it is scary, I have not experienced it myself but I have had close family members diagnosed as fatal, sadly 2/3rds were to die, but the reality is each and every single medical condition is entirely different. Some do win, you have won once already, it allowed you to get married and have children, but the truth is you can win again. Early diagnoses is key so that when things take a turn for the worse you learn about it soon. I know, from watching my mother die, that attitude matters and if someone cares enough their odds improve while if a person just gives up, as my mother did, then they die much faster. I'm not saying someone can become immortal if their will is just strong enough but I am saying that some people decide to die while others decide to live and so fight and so live. Attitude does matter. I know this from watching my mother die.
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    • #3
      Oh man Pekka, that's awful, but hey you have got a good attitude, do whatever the doctors tell you, even if it is annoying they didn't catch it before now. I just had a cancer scare myself and it does make you angry when you get mis-diagnosed. It took me two years to get treatment for something I had been pointing out. All the time it was getting worse and more dangerous.

      Same with Mrs Horse, she nearly died before the doctors finally worked out what was wrong with her. It does show medicine still has a long way to go. We have to accept that.

      One thing I would recommend is get second opinions until you are happy with the doctor and the treatment you are getting. We do now. It makes a big difference if you take control and feel like you are doing something positive for yourself. It also makes the worst cases easier to accept because you did all you could.

      all my good thoughts to you and your family
      Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

      Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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      • #4
        Thank you both!

        It's kind of scary to know that still, even so, your doctor IS in fact one of the best there is. Naturally, I have done research and found out that if I wanted the best, I already have it. By best I mean best in this country and top tier in Europe. A lot of my anxiety is due to this fact. A lot, I mean... if she says there's nothing that she knows of... it means that there are things, but it's mostly the same crap that hasn't worked before and is not really promising. My doc promised to make some enquiries to few top notch researchers of this particular tumor, get some of that international touch to this.

        On the other hand... I am very privileged. Out of all people of the world, who is so lucky, that when they get sick like this, they get people to work for them, sending request for information of latest knowledge on a very specific topic around the world if needed. Most people don't even know how to read, or get to have good water and food every day, several times a day.

        So this is all scary. If they don't know, then who knows? The answer might be that no one really knows. Even the best plausible explanation, as far as theories go, seems to be missing. So if you throw 'cure' out of the window and settle for 'living with it', then how do you do that if no one knows anything about it? Except "well, it looks like it's a bit round. We don't know what that means, except that these usually look a bit round". Seriously. This is not putting down experts, it is that all the humanity doesn't know much about it. It's simply too exotic and has way too many variables. I do appreciate the complexity and the amount of variables that factor in, and for sure the amount of data that could be gathered is low due to the number of potential patients is relatively low, and for that you would have to have money and resources anyway... and do it for few decades. And even then you could try out only few schemes. ****... but I figure I won't let this fact get in the way of surviving. There are facts and there are facts. Some facts represent how things are, but sometimes other facts override them, even when they are in direct conflict. That's why I call it a war because this is a conflict of facts. I don't call this a war because I declare a war on myself. I declare war on few particular facts, that the facts I choose will override the facts that will often prevail. It's time for some outliers!
        In da butt.
        "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
        THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
        "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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        • #5
          I lost my dad when I was young Pekka. Still he is in my mind some sort of demi-god. I am sure it will be the same with your kids. So no need to worry about that.
          Just focus on being the outlier here.
          "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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          • #6
            can I also suggest, if not too forward, to have someone who can be with you for all the treatment and the doctor appointments. I did this for Mrs Horse and my oldest son did it for me. It is comforting not to face this alone and sometimes you can check what is said or done with your companion. When you are upset sometimes you miss things. And sometimes you need someone to talk to who heard what was said or saw what was done. Also just having someone to park the car or get the coffee helps
            Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

            Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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            • #7
              *hugs*

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              • #8
                fight fight fight!

                Go Pekka!

                JM
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                • #9
                  fight fight fight!

                  Go Pekka!

                  JM
                  Jon Miller-
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                  • #10
                    I'm not worried for SuperCitizen. I'm worried for that cancer. It is about to experience the sort of ass-kicking that happens once an eon.
                    "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                    "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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                    • #11
                      Kick some ass, Pekka. Don't be afraid to get two or three opinions, either - most of doctoring is just experential memory. My father in law had a blood cancer and was told there wasn't much they could do and he probably had six months or so, but he flew around the country to a dozen doctors or so and eventually found someone who had just the right treatment for it, and he lived another five years before dying of something unrelated.

                      So see as many doctors as you can to get the most different experiences you can - and don't think that it's an insult to your current doctor to go see someone else; it's not saying she isn't capable, it's just getting more information to help guide your treatment.
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                      • #12
                        Good luck!
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                        • #13
                          Wow. Don't know what to say, Pekka. That is brutal.

                          I know you will fight the good fight, using all your intelligence, insight and willpower to beat this thing.
                          You can, and if there is any justice in this world, you will.
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                          • #14
                            You might still think about getting another doctor. That's a hard decision.
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                            • #15
                              Pekka...I don't know what to say. You and your family are in my thoughts - I wish you the best of luck but I know you don't need it. You'll beat it again.

                              Let me know if there's anything I can do to help. My oncology skills are minimal, though.
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