NR-tarded

[Felch]

Guns are a significant threat to public health.

If only we had like National Institutes of Health, so that we didn't need our Centers for Disease Control worrying about things that aren't diseases.

[Sava]

The NRA behaves appropriately. You wouldn't expect NARAL to support a ban on late term abortions. Political advocacy groups are supposed to take a side and stick with it.

You should just go full-****** and link limits on gun ownership to gay marriage and bestiality.

[Sava]

If only we had like National Institutes of Health, so that we didn't need our Centers for Disease Control worrying about things that aren't diseases.

Guns kill more people than bird flu. Also, I suspect the paranoia that leads one to buy a gun is a form of mental illness that warrants extensive study.

[Guynemer]

The CDC is the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and guns are not a disease.

That is the lamest ****ing argument.

I expect better from you.

[Felch]

What do you expect? For me to support sprawling, overlapping, redundant bureaucracies? Let the CDC worry about diseases, and leave the firearm public health concerns to NIH or the CPSC of the FBI. There's no shortage of government agencies out there that can still do research on guns.

[Sava]

What do you expect? For me to support sprawling, overlapping, redundant bureaucracies? Let the CDC worry about diseases, and leave the firearm public health concerns to NIH or the CPSC of the FBI. There's no shortage of government agencies out there that can still do research on guns.

What's wrong with redundancy? Would you fly in an airplane that didn't have redundant systems? I thought you conservatives wanted government to be effective.

When you sweep a floor, do you only go over a spot once?

I guess you would want all your eggs in one basket... it makes it easier to break them, eh?

I swear to God... if some Muslim cleric in Yemen was spouting all this anti-American bull****, we'd drop a missile on him.

[Felch]

What's wrong with redundancy? Would you fly in an airplane that didn't have redundant systems? I thought you conservatives wanted government to be effective.

Efficient. We want government to be more efficient. I.e. not wasting resources duplicating efforts. And multiple government agencies doing the same pointless task is a far cry from multiple systems on a plane preventing a jet full of people from crashing to the ground.

[Hauldren Collider]

Redundant avionics eliminates a single point of failure. Redundant government organizations actually creates points of failure. The analogy makes no sense.

[kentonio]

Background Checks Beat Apple Pie, Baseball, Kittens In Americans' Hearts: Poll

Pitching gun violence legislation during a major speech in Connecticut this past week, President Barack Obama noted that, according to multiple polls, 9 in 10 Americans agree that somebody purchasing a firearm needs a background check.

"How often do 90 percent of Americans agree on anything?" he joked, drawing laughter from the audience.

In collaboration with the online polling firm YouGov, The Huffington Post set out to answer that question. What we found: Not often.

We asked about the most popular, least controversial things we could think of, and we found only one thing -- ice cream -- that garnered more approval than background checks do on some surveys.

More Americans, it turns out, support universal background checks than like apple pie, baseball, kittens and child labor laws.

- Only 81 percent have a favorable opinion of apple pie. And among the youngest adults (those under age 30), only 70 percent have a favorable opinion of the quintessential American dessert, suggesting that its popularity may slip even further over time.

- Seventy-six percent of Americans have a favorable view of the raison d'etre of the Internet: kittens. We don't have numbers on this, but we suspect more people may be allergic to kittens than to background checks. And kittens have a tendency to grow up to become cats, which other surveys have found to be a divisive issue.

- Child labor laws are rated favorably by only 71 percent of Americans. That number is dragged down by the independents in the survey, only 65 percent of whom said they like those laws.

- Baseball received a favorable rating from an abysmal 67 percent of respondents, meaning that while background checks may not be quite as American as baseball and apple pie, they're more popular than either one. The survey found a gender gap in ratings for the sport, with 72 percent of men but only 63 percent of women having a favorable opinion.

- Ninety-three percent have a favorable view of ice cream, making the tasty summertime treat more popular than background checks. Like background checks, ice cream receives bipartisan support from the American public, as 97 percent of Republicans and 93 percent of Democrats agree that ice cream is pretty great.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3070954.html

[kentonio]

DP

[Dauphin]

How was the child labour law posed?

Either the polled are cold hard bastards, the reporting is different to the questioning, or labour laws is something I misapprehend. To say "Do you rate child labor laws favourably" would, in my mind, be akin to saying "Do you agree it is good that we no longer send children to work in cotton mills, coal mines, workhouses, or up chimneys?".

[kentonio]

How was the child labour law posed?

Either the polled are cold hard bastards, the reporting is different to the questioning, or labour laws is something I misapprehend. To say "Do you rate child labor laws favourably" would, in my mind, be akin to saying "Do you agree it is good that we no longer send children to work in cotton mills, coal mines, workhouses, or up chimneys?".

That will be the large number of Republicans who came in their pants when Gingrich suggested replacing school janitors with poor children.

[The Mad Monk]

It's the number of fat children playing video games. If they're working, at least they're moving.

[kentonio]

Plus think of all the money you could save by using expendable poor children instead of workers you have to pay minimum wage and suchlike too.

[DaShi]

How was the child labour law posed?

Either the polled are cold hard bastards, the reporting is different to the questioning, or labour laws is something I misapprehend. To say "Do you rate child labor laws favourably" would, in my mind, be akin to saying "Do you agree it is good that we no longer send children to work in cotton mills, coal mines, workhouses, or up chimneys?".

Some nuts see child labor laws as intrusive government legislation.